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Gillian
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22 Nov 2007 09:51 |
Trying to find spouce & decendents of: Alice Lount Mann 1863 Leicester Jan/March qtr Leicester vol 7a 225 1863.
She had 6 brothers/sisters and her parents were Henry Mann & Elizabeth Smith both c1831.
Her grandparents were: Thomas Mann & Elizabeth Lount c 1813 (married in 1829- St Marys Leicester)).
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22 Nov 2007 10:11 |
1891 could this be her/ Name: Alice L Blaksley [Alice L Mann] Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Nathaniel Father's Name: Henry Gender: Female Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Leicestershire Name: Nathaniel Blaksley Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Alice L Gender: Male Where born: Leicester, Leicesters Name: Henry Mann Age: 63 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Relation: Father-in-law Gender: Male Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: St Margaret Name: Martha J A Mann Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation: Sister-in-law Gender: Female Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: St Margaret Household Members: Name Age Alice L Blaksley 28 Herbert N Blaksley 4 Nathaniel Blaksley 28 Sydney Blaksley 1 Henry Mann 63 Martha J A Mann 16
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Gillian
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22 Nov 2007 13:55 |
Yes, Looks like it is her! Thank you. I notice this is from the 1891 census?
Is it pos to find her/ her family at an earlier time at all?
Once again - thank you for yur help. Gill
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22 Nov 2007 14:01 |
Name: Martha J A Mann Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
I have her as 1861 - which would make her aprox 30 in 1891????? Otherwise - all the other details fit exactly??
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David
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22 Nov 2007 14:13 |
Alice Lount Mann marriage Dec 1884 Leicester Volume 7a page 534, Nathaniel Blaksley is on the same page.
In 1881 indexed as Maw in 44 Ivy Cross Street, Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire:
Henry Mann c1831 Leicester, Framework Knitter Elizabeth c1830 Leicester Alice L c1863 Leicester, Book Folder/Binder Harry c1870 Leicester Martha J A c1875 Leicester John Clay c1810 Leicester, Greenwich Pensioner, Uncle
In 1871 in 12 Bonners? Lane, Newarke, Leicestershire:
Henry Mann c1831 Leicester Elizabeth c1830 Leicester James c1853 Leicester, Shoe Maker Elizabeth c1856 Leicester, Worsted Spinner Walter c1858 Leicester, Shoe Finisher Alice c1863 Leicester Kezia c1866 Leicester Harry c1870 Leicester John Clay c1810 Leicester, Greenwich Pensioner, Uncle
In 1861 in District Leicester Union Workhouse:
Henry Mann c1831 Leicester St Mary, Frame Work Knitter Elizabeth c1830 Leicester St Nicholas James c1853 Leicester Elizabeth c1856 Leicester Martha c1861 Leicester
In 1861 in Henshaw Street? Leicester St Marys:
Kezia Smith c1801, Leicester, Manager of House William c1833 Leicester, Brewer Joseph c1838 Leicester, Grate Fitter Ann c1840 Leicester, Knitter of Fancy Work Walter J Mann c1858 Leicester
In 1851 in Henshaw Street, Leicester St Marys:
John Smith c1800 Hamer? Nottingham, Turner & Fitter Keziah c1802 Leicester, Washerwoman William c1833 Leicester, Labourer George c1835 Leicester, Smith Joseph c1838 Leicester, ? Ann c1840 Leicester, Fancy Work Thomas Clay c1781 Leicester, Father in Law? Henry Mann c1830 Leicester, Framework Knitter Elizabeth c1830 Leicester, Fancy Work Elizabeth c1838 Leicester, Cotton Winder (Henrys Sister)
In 1841 in the Newarks, Leicester:
Thomas Mann c1812 Woolcomber Elizabeth c1813 Henry c1831 Elizabeth c1838
Henry Mann Christening: 23 AUG 1830 Saint Mary De Castro, Leicester parents Thomas and Eliz.
Thomas Mann married Elizabeth Lount 12 OCT 1829 Saint Mary, Leicester
Check out IGI Batch Number: C034631
Mann parents William and Mary. Lount parents Henry and Mary.
Check out freeBMD for more info:
A Henry Mann married in Leicester in Dec 1850, one of the choices of spouse is an Elizabeth Smith, maybe more than a coincidence that their son is staying with the Smith family and they name one of their children Kezia.
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David
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22 Nov 2007 15:12 |
By earlier do you mean more recent?
In 1901 in 3 Laurel Road, Leicester, Formerly St Margaret:
Nathaniel Blaksley c1863 Leicester, Grocers Vanman Alice L c1863 Leicester, Tailoress Herbert N c1887 Leicester, Fitter of Boots & Shoes Sydney c1890 Leicester Mabel A c1895 Leicester Walter c1900 Jessie E Urquhart c1888 Leicester, Nurse Girl, Niece Walter J Mann c1858 Notts, Edge Setter, B in Law Florence S Mann c1897, Leicester, Niece
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Gillian
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22 Nov 2007 15:20 |
Wow - Thanks David - cant quite take it all in just yet! I may well get back to you with a couple of questions if thats ok. Thank you so much for all your hard work in tracing the family Kind regards Gill
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Gillian
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22 Nov 2007 15:30 |
Hi David Just knew that I would have some questions. I notice a Martha Mann born 1861 in the 1861 workhouse and a Martha Mann born 1875 in the 1881 census. Were there two Martha Manns born to henry & Elizabeth. and did the 1st one die? When?
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David
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22 Nov 2007 16:10 |
A Martha Mann died in Dec 1863 Leicester, unfortunately it doesn't give her age.
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Gillian
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23 Nov 2007 10:43 |
Thanks David - that makes sence Marth dies aged 2 and 12 years after that they have another daughter, who they also call Martha.
Presume - John Clay c1810 Leicester, (uncle) is Henry Manns Dads? or mums? brother.
Do we know who he is exactly?
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David
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28 Nov 2007 19:49 |
John Smith c1800 married Keziah Clay 25 DEC 1821 Saint Mary, Leicester.
In 1851 Thomas Clay c1781 is his Father in Law
Keaziah Clay Birth: 31 JAN 1802 Christening: 08 FEB 1802 Saint Mary De Castro, Leicester parents Thomas and Martha.
Therefore John Clay c1810 is possibly the son of Thomas Clay and Keziahs brother hence Elizabeths Uncle.
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Gillian
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29 Nov 2007 10:12 |
David - thank you, I understand the coonection now.
1901 census: shows a neice living with the family, Jessie E Urquhart c1888 Leicester, Nurse Girl,
I dont yet have any knowledge of the 'Urquhart's)? Any ideas where I should be looking ?????
Thanks again for your help Gill
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David
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29 Nov 2007 17:19 |
Jessie Elizabeths birth info can be seen on freeBMD Dec 1887 although her surname is spelt Urquart.
In 1891 she is boarding with the Hyde family in Vines Street.
For this to happen I would have thought her parents may have died or something.
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Gillian
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30 Nov 2007 09:54 |
Thanks again David I will now try to find out who Jessies parents were...as I am still trying to find her connection with Nathaniel Blaksley and Alice Lount Blaksley (nee Mann). Gill
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David
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30 Nov 2007 10:10 |
There is an Urquhart family on various census living in Leicester St Margaret, who originate from Scotland, but can't identify a possible parent at the moment.
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