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There is this birth that you could look into on census and consider getting.

Births Dec 1882
Webb Florence Emily Bromley 2a 430

There are no Florence Emily Skinners right place right timeish.
And no Florence Emily Webb born in Surrey,this is the only one that matches any of the criteria with an Emily in..

She may have been born illegitimate and taken in by the Skinners or was orphaned early andgiven her mothers maiden name Skinner to be the same as the rest of the family.

The Quarter is right for her birth and years often were wrong in peoples memories.

If it came back with the right date and month for her you could be pretty sure it was her.

There was an Emily on 1891 census with the Skinner girl and maybe the W after Florence is wrong?

I dont think they married for some reason as no marriage can be found for them.

The 1911 census was filled in by them so why say born Surrey if she was born in Kent.

Skinner or Webb?

Webb if it were me, as why would she say on all the childrens births that her name was Webb.

I wondered if Skinner was a Stepfathers name that she took until she had children.

Or maybe the prayer book is not hers

Where did you get her exact date of birth from?

Thanks. I think the 1911 reference is definately the one but not sure which one is the right Florence in 1901.
Why do you think I am unable to find a birth for her when I know the dates? I always understood that she was born in Kent but this could be wrong. Should I be looking for Florence Skinner or Florence Webb? Maybe Florence and Frank Sillwood didn't actually marry? I have lots of photos but no wedding photos for them.
Thanks for your help.

1901 for Florence Skinner...At leaves Green.


SKINNER, George Head Widower M 48 1853 General Labourer
Leaves Green
Kent
SKINNER, Thomas Brother Single M 45 1856 General Labourer
Leaves Green
Kent
SKINNER, Florence Daughter Single F 17 1884
Leaves Green
Kent
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
691 Folio:
20 Page:
8

Registration District:
Bromley Sub District:
Orpington Enumeration District:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Cudham St Peter & St Paul

Civil Parish:
Cudham Municipal Borough:
Address:
Leaves Green, Cudham County:
Kent


The Emily Sillwood on 1911 says she was born in Surrey,Florence skinner says she was born in Kent.

In 1891Florence Skinner has a W for second initial
SKINNER, George Head Single M 38 1853 Bricklayers Labourer
Cudham
Kent
SKINNER, Emily Mother Widow F 61 1830
Cudham
Kent
SKINNER, Thomas Son Single M 31 1860 Bricklayers Labourer
Cudham
Kent
SKINNER, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 25 1866
Cudham
Kent
SKINNER, Fredrick Son Single M 17 1874 Farm Servant
Cudham
Kent
SKINNER, Florance W Granddaughter F 8 1883
Cudham
Kent
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
631 Folio:
7 Page:
10

Registration District:
Bromley Sub District:
Bromley Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Cudham

Civil Parish:
Cudham Municipal Borough:
Address:
Leaves Green, Cudham County:
Kent


Unless I have 2 different Skinner families here they cant make their minds up on their marital status family conections and birth years .

1911 for ref.

SILLWOOD, Frank Head Married M 49 1862 Jobbing Gardner Devon Shear
SILLWOOD, Frank Wiliam Son M 2 1909 Kent
SILLWOOD, Emily Wife Married
3 years F 28 1883 Home Surrey
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3632 Reference:
RG14PN3632 RG78PN137 RD42 SD1 ED3 SN355

Registration District:
Bromley Sub District:
Bromley Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Bromley

Address:
82 Martins Road Bromley County:
Kent

Well he wasnt married "elsewhere"in 1901

Name: Frank W Selwood
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Chagford, Devon, England
Civil parish: Beckenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Beckenham
County/Island: Kent

Occupation:Gardener(domestic)

Registration district: Bromley
Sub-registration district: Beckenham


Wonder if this is Florence in 1901
WEBB, Florence E Servant Single F 21 1880 Domestic
Surbiton
Surrey

Address:
59, Parkers Row, Bermondsey


Or this one.

WEBB, Florence Servant Single F 18 1883 Cook 'domestic'
Moorhouse
Surrey

Address:
7, High Street, Westerham

Thank you everyone for your help.
Florence's children were: Frank William born 17/6/1908, Irene born 1913 and my father John Kenneth born 28/11/1919. I don't know about a James but have heard about a half brother who went to Australia by the name of Jack (this could be James?).
I have been able to find no record of Florence's marriage to Frank William Sillwood although in the 1911 Census they are together and it records her as having been married for 3 years and at that time they have one child, my uncle, Frank William.
Where could the Skinner have come from - I have an inscription in her prayer book saying "Florence Skinner given to her by Her Loving Aunt Mrs Beadle" and the back page states "Florence Skinner, Leaves Green, Beckenham, Kent". My father always said his mother's maiden name was Skinner. I'm totally confused!

The E in Florence E stands for Emily.
Hope this is of some help.
Patricia

Birth ....... ?


Florence Eliza SKINNER 1881 West Ham 4a 70 dec qrt

Wrong one then Marilyn,thanks for sorting that one out.

Sillwood is what we need.

If Patricia would only come back with his first name and when the eldest child was born we may have more chance here.

There is a Florence Eliza Webb.married to George William Clark Bromley.
1909 Dec Qrtr 2a 931....

It may be to this man and page numbers wrong?

Marriages Dec 1909
SILVER Alexander Bromley 2a 981

Edit........No Alex Silver married an Edith Emily.

1911

SILVER, Alexander Head Married
1 years M 35 1876 Bankers Clerk London Camberwell
SILVER, Edith Emily Wife Married F 36 1875 Brighton Sussex
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3636 Reference:
RG14PN3636 RG78PN137 RD42 SD1 ED7 SN10

Registration District:
Bromley Sub District:
Bromley Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Bromley

Address:
22 Gilbert Road Bromley County:
Kent

There's this marriage but can't see name of spouse
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Marriages Dec 1909

WEBB Florence Eliza - Bromley 2a 931

The children?

Births Jun 1912
Sillwood James H Webb Bromley 2a 1125
Births Mar 1914
SILLWOOD Irene N Webb Bromley 2a 1042
Births Dec 1919
Sillwood John K Webb Bromley 2a 1062

If your father is one of these, which I believe they are (John) then I think that a marriage is needed for his parents


A bit of a late registration for a November 1880 birth but in the right place ?

Births Sep 1881
Webb Florence Emma Bromley 2a 401

Formerly is definately maiden name,if it were a previous marriage it would normally say Late Webb formerly/previously Skinner??

Are you 100% sure you have the correct childrens certs?

When did Sillwood and Florence marry and what is Mr Sillwoods first name please?

If you give a little more info like where in the country all this is we may be able to help a little more.

I can find no Skinner/Sillwood or Webb/Sillwood marriage at the moment,do you have the cert?



Her death?
What does the E stand for please?

Name: Florence E Sillwood
Death Registration Month/Year: 1948
Age at death (estimated): 68
Registration district: Bromley
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5b
Page: 163

Formerly means maiden name.

Have been searching for ages for Florence Skinner. Have childrens' birth certificates and mother listed as 'Florence Sillwood formerly Webb'. Does the formerly refer to a previous marriage rather than maiden name as it has always been understood her maiden name was Skinner and I have found her in Census records as Florence Skinner and in a family bible. I can find no birth record although I know her birth was 26 November 1880 and have a copy of the death certificate in 1948. Any suggestions please? Thanks, Patricia.