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Hi Gerry Thanks.Thats another angle i hadnt thought about Definately food for thought here.Thanks for your help Kay

Kay

Females are hard to find cos she could have lived with a new man and be known as his name!'

Sorry
Gerri x

hi SL Everything youve said could be right .When do death records go up to.I feel she must have died by now.She was born about 1891.Thanks Kay

Hi Kaz Seems unlikely,As she was named Florence Alice ,It doesnt seem to fit.Although the middle initial is A.probably Ann.All very strange .I have no idea of timeframe either Thanks Kay

Maybe she diddnt die!...also maybe thats why hubby and Beatrice diddnt marry?

Cant seem to find a death for Florence or a marriage for Francis to Beatrice at all Kay.

HiKaz yes thankyou .Husbands mother,so already have that certificate.Joseph was born 1919 .Florence could have died any time after that.Thanks Kay

Can only see this name for a death Kay, what do you think- could she have been named Mary?

BUTLER Mary A 54 Norwich 4b 120

Did you see the other birth i found on page one Kay?

Hi Kaz Have just seen first date you sent.Have got that certificate Thanks Kay

Hi Kaz That looks very much like Joseph Birth.Thanks Kay.Please see if you can find Florences death.Kay

And another!!

Butler Joseph E Huggins Norwich 4b 206

Just realised this is the same as the first one i sent you!

Heres another birth for Francis and Florence too Kay

BUTLER Frances L Huggins Norwich 4b 278

Hi Kay

This looks like Josephs D.O.B

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
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Beavis William R ____ Norwich 4b 206
Butler Joseph E Huggins Norwich 4b 206
Debbage Doris _ Ottaway Norwich 4b 206
Ellis George E Youngs Norwich 4b 206
Harcourt Arthur Reeder Norwich 4b 206

Hi SL Yes there were 2 from first marriage.Francis Lydia born 13=4=1914.-husbands mother.There was also a son Joseph born later,dont as yet have his d.o.b.My husband always thought that ,Joeph and Beatrice were not married.She was buried as his wife,but we cant find the first one.Thanks for your help,and to Kaz Kay

Kay
Were there any children from either marriage?

Gerri

This is odd! and prob way off the mark?

Marriages Dec 1913


Butler Francis W Holland Wycombe 3a 1781
Holland Beatrice Butler Wycombe 3a 1781

Hi Kaz The first one i have.Cant find her death Florence A Butler.He presumably married Beatrice after she died.Thanks Kay

Hi Kay

These are the only marriages i have come up with so far, only one in the Norwich area is to his first wife,,any good?


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Francis J Butler 1913 Oct-Nov-Dec Huggins Norwich Norfolk
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Francis J Butler 1915 Jul-Aug-Sep Collins Stroud (1837 Onw) Gloucestershire
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Francis J Butler 1915 Oct-Nov-Dec Butler Bradfield Berkshire, Hampshire, Oxfordshire
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Francis J Butler 1922 Jan-Feb-Mar Tassell Brentford Middlesex
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Francis J Butler 1922 Jan-Feb-Mar Chatfield East Preston Sussex
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Francis J Butler 1927 Apr-May-Jun Keele St George Hanover Square London, Middlesex
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Francis J A Butler 1915 Apr-May-Jun Wills Sunderland Durham, Tyne and Wear

Hi SL,Ive got that marriage cert,I need her death date and date of Francis second marriage to beatrice.Thanks Kay