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Hi trying to find information on James Coates married to Margaret Wilson 1891 in Newcastle Australia. I have been told that he came to Australia with his parents and siblings from Bradford England. I am thinking he had a brother George and Henry. The faimily lived north of Newcastle with a road named after the family. Hope someone might have a connection.

Kind Regards
Sharon Coates

What year was he born?

One of these maybe?

James Coates
Year of Registration: 1870
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bradford
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 235
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James Coates
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Bradford
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 83
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James Coates
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Bradford
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 252


Gerri x

Do you know his Parents names? Fathers occupation?

Thank you. Sorry do not know his parents as yet. When he married in 1891 he was a young policeman and his wife was only 16 so he could be either of the first two. Think he had a brother George and Henry. Thank you for your help and quick response. Sharon

Hi Sharon, 'NSW BDM' is on-line. James & Margaret Coates had 5 chn: 1893 James W (1921 m Ann Drake)......... 1896 Stanley C (1921 m Gladys Dover) (Stanley Claude d1982 age 85)... 1898 Raymond m? -d 198? 'late of Bellevue Hill) ................. 1900 Dulsie E (1924 'Dulcie' E m Harry Cuthbert). .............. 1903 Melba B (1923 m Frank Garside. (Frank Garside d 1963) ....... The RYERSON INDEX -online- has newspaper death notices to current day you can ask them for free 'look-up's i.e. 'Stanley Claude' & 'Raymond' for family names etc. .....Valerie (WA)

Hi Sharon

A Margaret COATES died in 1903 in Kempsey, dau of John & Isabella. This is the same place youngest child Dulcie was born in that same year...

A Margaret WILSON was born in 1875 in Newcastle to John & Isabella...so I wonder...? Dates fit with her being 16 when she married in 1891.

There is a marriage for a Jas COATES in Kempsey in 1907 to a Catherine WIXTED (reg 7838). I wonder if he re-married (seems likely with 5 young children to raise).

Good luck!

Cheers
Cherilyn

Thank you Cherilyn and Valerie

Yes James Coates married again to Catherine Wixted and this is when the family split. My husbands grandfather Stanley Coates went to live with his uncle around Taree who he called Uncle Harry. I have no further information on James Coates mother and father or brother and sisters which is my next avenue. Much apreciated for your help Sharon

If you got his 1891 marriage certificate, would that tell you his father's name? English certificates show that.

Maybe the Australian ones show more?


That would make it much easier to search the censuses.


sylvia

Thank you Sylvia,

I have got the marriage certificate and parents names were marked as not stated, so this does not help in getting further information so not sure where to look now. Thanks anyway Sharon

Hi Sharon - there's a possible death for 'James Coates' 1939 Newcastle (Reg. no.4869/1939) -it gives parents' names as 'John & Mary'..... JOY MURRIN's Transription service will check the d cert. (fee from $7). ..Valerie (WA)

I did look on UK censuses, but couldn't see a James Coates with brothers George and Henry/Harry



sylvia

Hi Sylvia

There is a Henry COATES who died in Taree in 1945 (reg 21281), his parents are shown as James & Ann. His middle name is Wardman. He married Nancy Ellen METCALFE in Parramatta in 1888 and they had sons named James Henry (1903-1970) and George Robert (1905-1971), along with John, Fredk, Ada Ellen and Annie. Chn Ada, James & George all died in Taree. John died as a child.

If you happen to know if "Uncle Harry"'s wife's name was Nancy this might be helpful.

A James COATES with parents James & Ann died in Hamilton NSW in 1962...?

:-)
Cherilyn

Thank you all again it wonderful to have such great help. The James Coates that died in 1939 is not ours as James as he died in the 60's so I think Cherilyn might be on something with parents james and Anne for the James who died in 1962 will have to follow this up and get back. I had a look last night but must of missed it or decided it could not be ours. Thanks again

Sharon

Wonder if parents Ann & James came from UK with brothers James and Henry? No marriage for James and Ann and no children with parent james and ann. Maybe George was a cousin to James and Henry? Will keep probing Sharon

Hi have just found Henry Wardman Coates born Nov 1865 in Ilkley Yorkshire England. Could any one look to see if he had a brother James. Father James and Mother Coates Thanks in advance
Sharon

Hi Sharon - do you think the 'James Coates' who d 1939 (Newcastle) was 'James's father? If so -remember 'Joy Murrin's Transcription service' -the d cert would show how long he'd been in Aus and his off-spring. ...Valerie

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1871

Henry W Coates
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Ilkley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Hampsthwaite
Ecclesiastical parish: Hampsthwaite
Town: Hampsthwaite
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Knaresborough
Sub-registration district: Harrogate
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 26
Household Members: Name Age

Ann Coates 41 born: Ripley, Yorkshire
George Coates 11 born: Ilkley,
Hannah Coates 4 born: Hampsthwaite, Yorkshire
Henry W Coates 6
James Coates 38 born: Overton, Yorkshire. Farmer of 16 1/2 acres
James Coates 1 born: Hampsthwaite, Yorkshire
Louisa Coates 9 born: Ilkley,
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Marriages Sep 1859 (>99%)
I would say this is correct one as fits in with 1st born.

>>Coates James Sculcoates 9d 195
Galt John Sculcoates 9d 195
Moore Emily Sculcoates 9d 195
>>Paton Ann Sculcoates 9d 195
Paton Janet Sculcoates 9d 195

The district Sculcoates is in the county of East Riding of Yorkshire
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Or?

Marriages Dec 1861 (>99%)

>>Coates James Wortley 9c 279
Laycock William Wortley 9c 279
Lister Mary Anne Wortley 9c 279
>>Matthewman Anne Wortley 9c 279

The district Wortley is in the county of West Riding of Yorkshire

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1881
Henry W. Coates
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Ilkley, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Hampsthwaite
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Flat Top House Skipton Road
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Farm Servant (Indoor)

Registration district: Knaresborough
Sub-registration district: Harrogate
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry W. Coates 15
Ellen Lupton 22
Fanny Lupton 8
James Lupton 61
Mary A. Lupton 53
Sarah Lupton 10


Cannot find them on 1891...

Gerri

This is odd?

Births Jun 1865
Coates Henry Wardman Hay 11b 117



The district Hay spans the boundaries of the counties of Breconshire, Herefordshire, Powys and Radnorshire

Mid Wales?

Hi Sharon - do you think the 'James Coates' who d 1939 (Newcastle) was 'James's father? If so -remember 'Joy Murrin's Transcription service' -the d cert would show how long he'd been in Aus and his off-spring. ...Valerie

Thank you so much to you all.

Valerie I never thought that it might be my James father so thank you (only because I did not have a clue what his name was).

Gerri I think you have to family as we have a george, henry and james which all fits with what I have been told. Henry wardman hay coates - wonder if this would be a cousin? How far apart is Hay and Ilkley?

Off to look up some more on BDM in NSW and get some transcripts.

Sharon