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please could someone help me sort my little mess out marriage cert arrived today for my gt gt gt grandad

mr william may
& feb20th 1849 leeds yorkshire
mary barrett

i ordered it to enable me find out who his father was his father is named on the marriage cert as john may he was a stone mason the marriage took place in woodhouse & where the ages are suppose to be it just says above 21 for both william & mary i have tract mary barrett & her familt down to 1841 but can not track william down at all with his family i have found 2 william may in leeds in the 1841 census with a john as his father but the father john one was a potato dealer & the other was a book seller can.t find one who was a stone mason i wonder if anyone could see anything i cant mary barrett williams wife to be was born c1828 leeds father michael but have found them its william and his father john i can.t find
i would be very greatful for any help

thank you for your time

jacky

Sorry Jacky your message was a little difficult to read so can I put down what I believe we are looking for first? (hope you don't mind):

From the cert you have:

William May married Mary Barrett in Woodhouse, Leeds Yorkshire in 1849.

Both were over 21 so both born before c1828.

William's father was John May - a Stone Mason.

You have found the info on Mary + family but want to find William + father John - Stone Mason on 1841 census.

Is this correct?

Dea x

Sorry Jacky - Ancestry site is still down for me - it won't let me view any images.

I will look again for you later (if it let's me in).

Dea x

There are 2 William & Mary May's on the 1851 census which could fit . As these were your gt x3 grand parents and I assume you have worked your way back to them.
Can you tell us what children they should have so that we can be sure to trace the correct family

Although he isn't perhaps listed as deceased on the marriage certificate there is always the possibility that father John was dead when son William married.

The Yorkshire section of the FFHS has several John Mays in the burial index around then.

http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/general/howto.shtml

Sue

hi julie & dea
thanks for looking yes dea the way you have set it out is correct

william had a son joseph may born 21st of may 1849 leeds west yorkshire
& possible eliza may c1856 although not got her birth cert to confirm this but waiting for it to arrive joseph married ann gray in1873 leeds

this is how i have gone back does any of the people you have found spann out like this
once again rhanks for looking

jacky

joseph had a son arthur may born 1887 leeds

Jacky,

I really cannot find these people!!

Do you have William + Mary on any census together with their family please?

Can you put the details?

Thanks,

Dea x

Sorry, Jacky.
Some where alone the line I must have got lost.
I followed Arthur to Joseph.
Then followed Joseph back th 1871 with his grandmother Ann Sigston but could not connect him to a William

In 1851 census there is a Joseph b. 1850 but in Barnsley, with parents John & Ann

AND a Joseph born in Leeds, but in 1847, with grandparents, William & Ellen Grunwell.

???? where did I go wrong???

I assume that you have Joseph's marriage certificate,
and that how you know that he married Ann Gray and not Ann Eliza Beaumont.

Is this where you got the info that his father was 'William' ?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Joseph May
Name: Joseph May
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Leeds (1837-1929)
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 631

julie
you did.t i.m getting the same as you joseph was living with his grandmother as i found her marriage to samuel sigston but can not find his farther well i suppose that branch will have to end there
thanks for yourtime

jacky

Julie,

Thank goodness - I am lost along the same trail.

If the Joseph with Mother Mary who married Charles Calverley in 1864 is Jacky's Joseph - I dont think 'her' William died until much later. - so they are not the same familyt?????

I can't connect this - we need more info!

Dea x

yes i have joseph marriage cert ohhhhh what a mess lol

no dea i can.t find them on a census together that the problem i presumed they were in leeds because all the mays i have traced so far were born in leeds

jacky

Hang on!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jacky has just said something about Ann Sigston and a marriage?????????????


Something there ! - can you give me details please?

Dea x

So, this is YOUR Joseph ??

1871 England Census about Joseph May
Name: Joseph May
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:

Registration district: Leeds
Sub registration district: West Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 119
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Calverley 43.... daughter
Elisa May 15 ....grandaughter
Joseph May 21 ...grandson
Ann Sigston 63 ....Head
Margaret A Sigston 21 ...daughter

ancestry will not let me 'view the image' , so I can not give you street name or occupation.

If this is the correct one - this fits in somewhere??

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1864
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MAY Mary CALVERLEY Charles St Mark, Woodhouse Leeds CE69/D/408

Dea x

hi julie & dea
sorry for if mislead you in anyway i did.t put info on about joseph on the census with his grannie ann sigston as i had already found that maybe i should have sorry the mary calverley on the census aged 43 is josephs mum she remarried after william died she remarried in about 1864 sorry about this it was just that i was concentrating on looking for john may who is william mays father

jacky

Back up a minute..

Jacky you said you have Joseph's marriage certificate, and that is how you know his father was William. Is that correct?

Dea..
You said that Joseph's mother Mary,married Charles Calverley in 1864, correct ?

So, can we find Mary May in 1861 census?
Is she widowed or with William.?

O.K.

Bit by bit please as I am going round in circles.

When and where did William die?

Dea x

yes on his marriage cert it states that his dad is william & on his birth cert it states his dad as william & mother mary may formally barrett so went onto find his marriage and then sent for william & marys marriage cert and on it it says that williams dad was john may and he was a stone mason but joseph was defo born leeds 1849

jacky