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hi christine i will just have to wait i guess . no luck as yet on uncle answering the phone , thank you for your help,
hope to chat more later ,
Patricia xx

mum mentioed county mayo or cork but who knows what my mum's memory is like ,

lilly i think was born 1914 mar quarter
its the only rose born with murray mmn in york ,

Hi Christine ,just found out that the certifficate of my dads birth i was waiting on wasnt the one i needed fortunatly i only had to pay for the checking process and got my money back ,, so now im sure its murray mmn ,unless its still the wrong tree , oh well here goes hours of searching ha ha ,

Hi Patricia,

Did you manage to contact your uncle?

Had you given the birthdate of your father as a checking point?

Let me know if I can be of any more help.

Christine

Hi Christine
it was his second chrisian name that was wrong , the p stood for something other than patrick
i havent been able to get in touch with uncle yet and i think his phone isnt plugged in , well spoke to my mum and she remembers my dad telling her about co mayo and co clare where my dads parents came from ,trust my dad to be akward and have parents from ireland ha ha , im still going with murray till i know different ,