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8 May 2008 01:55 |
For: John Livesey born abt 1813 in Penwortham , Lancashire Thankyou ;-))
Also can anyone trace his parents/siblings Debbie x
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8 May 2008 02:01 |
1851 poss
Name: John Livesey Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Penwortham, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Preston Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Preston Sub registration district: Preston ED, institution, or vessel: 2x Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 61 Household Members: Name Age Alice Ashworth 41 Alice Ashworth 11 Henry Ashworth 5 James Ashworth 17 John Ashworth 3 Mary Ashworth 19 William Ashworth 40 William Burns 47 Charles Fox 19 John Gregson 60 John Livesey 38 Lurence Mains 15 Elizabeth Mount 37 James Myerscough 27 Joseph Pilkington 40 Thomas Wilkinson 31 John shown as unmarried - occupation of farmers son
William Ashworth is head of household Anyone not an Ashworth are lodgers
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8 May 2008 02:05 |
1861 ??
Name: John Livesey Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ame Gender: Male Where born: Penwortham, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Preston County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: provision dealer
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Preston Sub registration district: Preston ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 545 Household Members: Name Age Ame Livesey 53 Headgarth John Livesey 53 William Livesey 18 Preston, listed as son Could there be two ?
1851 yes there are two Name: John Livesey Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Penwortham, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Preston Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: overlooker power loom
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Preston Sub registration district: Preston ED, institution, or vessel: 1c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 332 Household Members: Name Age Ann Livesey 41 John Livesey 42 William Livesey 8 Ellen Sumner 19 daughter John Sumner 22 Son-in-law
So this is wrong family
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8 May 2008 02:11 |
Hmm Maureen there could be , I have a fellow researcher with Johns birthdate as 1815 but how much differance does the 2 years make
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8 May 2008 02:12 |
Not found either yet in 1871
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8 May 2008 02:15 |
1881 oh bother is this another one?
Name: John Livesey Age: 59 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Penwortham, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Preston County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 1 Euston St Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Railway Plate Layer Registration district: Preston Sub registration district: St John ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Livesey 24 Preston Ann Livesey 56 Leyland John Livesey 59 John Livesey 21 Preston Edith Robertson 5 grand daughter, Preston
Occupation does not match either
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8 May 2008 02:19 |
1871 I think this is the family to match the 1881
Name: John Livesey Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Nancy Gender: Male Where born: Walton-Le-Dale, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Preston Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: railway plate layer
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Preston Sub registration district: Preston ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Household schedule number: 257 Household Members: Name Age Alice Livesey 15 Ann Livesey 22 John Livesey 49 John Livesey 12 Nancy Livesey 46 Leyland Robert Livesey 26 William Livesey 18 1861 Name: John Livesey Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Penwortham, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Preston Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Preston County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Preston Sub registration district: Preston ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 104 Household Members: Name Age Alice Livesey 4 Ann Livesey 36 Ann Livesey 12 John Livesey 39 John Livesey 1 Robert Livesey 14 William Livesey 8 Mary Platt 25 Sarah Ann Platt 2 1851 Name: John Livesey Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Nancy Gender: Male Where born: Penwortham, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Walton Le Dale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: farmer
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Preston Sub registration district: Walton ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 101 Household Members: Name Age Lewis Gerrard 27 Ann Livesey 2 Catherine Livesey 5 Mo Ellen Livesey 6 John Livesey 29 Nancy Livesey 27 Leyland Robert Livesey 4 Margaret Smith 23 Christopher Snailham 16 William Sumner 18
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8 May 2008 02:30 |
So far have got 3.
John 1813 in 1851 John 1809 in 1851 and 1861 John 1822 in 1851 thru to 1881
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8 May 2008 02:37 |
John 1822 is definatley to late but maybe its not , grrrrrrrrrrr
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8 May 2008 02:40 |
Debbie,
Trouble is that on 1841 allowing for rounding up or down of ages there are too many possibles for any of them to make an educated guess
Registration district in 1841 would appear to be Preston.
Maureen
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8 May 2008 02:44 |
No got that wrong.
There is a Civil Parish of Penwortham that comes under the Registration District of Preston
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8 May 2008 02:47 |
oh bother
1841 Name: John Levesey Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: 1826 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Penwortham Hundred: Leyland County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Preston Sub registration district: Longton Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Levesey 45 Ellen Levesey 50 Ellen Levesey 20 John Levesey 15 Mary Levesey 15 Margery Levesey 15 William Levesey 13 Alice Levesey 11 Edward Levesey 9
Only one listed in Civil Parish of Penwortham but age is wrong
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8 May 2008 02:51 |
I dont know if its easier this way round might get there that way - I dont know tho I have Thomas Butterworth born 1875 Rochdale Lancashire who married a Jane Hilton
Thomas's parents were Samuel Butterworth born 1851 Castleton Lancashire & Sarah Livesey ( I think - may need a check on Thomas's parents)
It's then Sarah's parents I am looking for - if it is correct Samuel & Sarah she was born abt 1851 Casleton and her father should be the John I am looking for
Is that any easier ?????????
Deb x
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8 May 2008 02:58 |
The short answer is NO
Not yet found a Thomas 1875 with parents of Samuel and Sarah
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8 May 2008 03:00 |
Has Thomas b 1875 got a middle name?
1891 poss Name: Samuel Butterworth Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Castleton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Castleton Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin Town: Castleton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Rochdale Sub registration district: Castleton Further ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age David Butterworth 20 Elizabeth Butterworth 6 Hannah Butterworth 12 James W Butterworth 16 John Butterworth 17 Joseph Butterworth 8 Martha Butterworth 10 Mary Butterworth 10 Samuel Butterworth 40 Sarah Butterworth 41 Sarah A Butterworth 4 Thomas W Butterworth 14 Castleton All lsited as born Castleton
1881 Name: Sarah Butterworth Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Samuel Gender: Female Where born: Castleton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Castleton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 64 Partington Street Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Rochdale Sub registration district: Castleton Further ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age David Butterworth 10 Hannah Butterworth 2 James Wm. Butterworth 6 John Butterworth 7 Martha Butterworth Mary Butterworth Samuel Butterworth 30 Sarah Butterworth 31 Thos.Walker Butterworth 4
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8 May 2008 03:09 |
Oh bother not yet found Samuel or Sarah in 1871
1871 there is this family in right area?
Name: John Livsey Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Mother's Name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Rochdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Rochdale Sub registration district: Castleton Further ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 165 Household Members: Name Age James Livsey 17 Castleton John Livsey 56 John Livsey 23 Martha Livsey 86 Mother Robert Livsey 15 Samuel Livsey 13 Castleton Sarah Livsey 56 Bury
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8 May 2008 03:10 |
Yes Maureen its Walker , clever ;-))
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8 May 2008 03:12 |
1871 poss
Name: Samuel Butterworth Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Rochdale Civil Parish: Rochdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Rochdale Sub registration district: Castleton Further ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 14 Household Members: Name Age David Butterworth 3 months Samuel Butterworth 20 Sarah Butterworth 31 Rochdale
Wish they would make their minds up as to where they were born
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8 May 2008 03:12 |
Now I think if I am right Sarah's name was Greenhalgh before her mariage to John
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8 May 2008 03:15 |
1861 poss Name: Sarah Livsey Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Castleton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Castleton Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Rochdale Sub registration district: Castleton Without ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 60 Household Members: Name Age James Livsey 6 John Livsey 13 Darcy Leves, Lancashire Martha Livsey 17 Darcy Leves, Lancashire Ralph Livsey 19 Darcy Leves, Lancashire Robert Livsey 5 Samuel Livsey 3 Sarah Livsey 46 Ainsworth, listed as married Sarah Livsey 11 Mary Taylor 16 Oh typical no sign of husband
1851 Name: Sarah Livsey Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Castleton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Castleton Moor
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Rochdale Sub registration district: Castleton Without ED, institution, or vessel: 1i Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 157 Household Members: Name Age Ann Livsey 15 Bury James Livsey 5 John Livsey 36 Bolton, carter John Livsey 3 Martha Livsey 7 Mary Livsey 13 Ralph Livsey 9 Sarah Livsey 36 Bury Sarah Livsey 1
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