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Debbie

Debbie Report 8 May 2008 01:55

For:
John Livesey born abt 1813 in Penwortham , Lancashire
Thankyou ;-))

Also can anyone trace his parents/siblings
Debbie
x

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 May 2008 02:01

1851 poss

Name: John Livesey
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Penwortham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Preston
Sub registration district: Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: 2x
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Ashworth 41
Alice Ashworth 11
Henry Ashworth 5
James Ashworth 17
John Ashworth 3
Mary Ashworth 19
William Ashworth 40
William Burns 47
Charles Fox 19
John Gregson 60
John Livesey 38
Lurence Mains 15
Elizabeth Mount 37
James Myerscough 27
Joseph Pilkington 40
Thomas Wilkinson 31

John shown as unmarried - occupation of farmers son

William Ashworth is head of household
Anyone not an Ashworth are lodgers

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 May 2008 02:05

1861 ??

Name: John Livesey
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ame
Gender: Male
Where born: Penwortham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: provision dealer

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Preston
Sub registration district: Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 545
Household Members: Name Age
Ame Livesey 53 Headgarth
John Livesey 53
William Livesey 18 Preston, listed as son


Could there be two ?


1851 yes there are two
Name: John Livesey
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Penwortham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: overlooker power loom

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Preston
Sub registration district: Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 332
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Livesey 41
John Livesey 42
William Livesey 8
Ellen Sumner 19 daughter
John Sumner 22 Son-in-law



So this is wrong family

Debbie

Debbie Report 8 May 2008 02:11

Hmm Maureen
there could be , I have a fellow researcher with Johns birthdate as 1815 but how much differance does the 2 years make

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 May 2008 02:12

Not found either yet in 1871

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 May 2008 02:15

1881 oh bother is this another one?

Name: John Livesey
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Penwortham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 1 Euston St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Railway Plate Layer

Registration district: Preston
Sub registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Livesey 24 Preston
Ann Livesey 56 Leyland
John Livesey 59
John Livesey 21 Preston
Edith Robertson 5 grand daughter, Preston



Occupation does not match either

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 May 2008 02:19

1871 I think this is the family to match the 1881

Name: John Livesey
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Nancy
Gender: Male
Where born: Walton-Le-Dale, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: railway plate layer

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Preston
Sub registration district: Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Household schedule number: 257
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Livesey 15
Ann Livesey 22
John Livesey 49
John Livesey 12
Nancy Livesey 46 Leyland
Robert Livesey 26
William Livesey 18

1861
Name: John Livesey
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Penwortham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Preston
Sub registration district: Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 104
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Livesey 4
Ann Livesey 36
Ann Livesey 12
John Livesey 39
John Livesey 1
Robert Livesey 14
William Livesey 8
Mary Platt 25
Sarah Ann Platt 2

1851
Name: John Livesey
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Nancy
Gender: Male
Where born: Penwortham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Walton Le Dale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: farmer

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Preston
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 101
Household Members: Name Age
Lewis Gerrard 27
Ann Livesey 2
Catherine Livesey 5 Mo
Ellen Livesey 6
John Livesey 29
Nancy Livesey 27 Leyland
Robert Livesey 4
Margaret Smith 23
Christopher Snailham 16
William Sumner 18

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 May 2008 02:30

So far have got 3.

John 1813 in 1851
John 1809 in 1851 and 1861
John 1822 in 1851 thru to 1881

Debbie

Debbie Report 8 May 2008 02:37

John 1822 is definatley to late but maybe its not , grrrrrrrrrrr

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 May 2008 02:40

Debbie,

Trouble is that on 1841 allowing for rounding up or down of ages there are too many possibles for any of them to make an educated guess

Registration district in 1841 would appear to be Preston.


Maureen

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 May 2008 02:44

No got that wrong.

There is a Civil Parish of Penwortham that comes under the Registration District of Preston

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 May 2008 02:47

oh bother

1841
Name: John Levesey
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Penwortham
Hundred: Leyland
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Preston
Sub registration district: Longton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Levesey 45
Ellen Levesey 50
Ellen Levesey 20
John Levesey 15
Mary Levesey 15
Margery Levesey 15
William Levesey 13
Alice Levesey 11
Edward Levesey 9



Only one listed in Civil Parish of Penwortham but age is wrong

Debbie

Debbie Report 8 May 2008 02:51

I dont know if its easier this way round might get there that way - I dont know tho
I have Thomas Butterworth born 1875 Rochdale Lancashire who married a Jane Hilton

Thomas's parents were Samuel Butterworth born 1851 Castleton Lancashire & Sarah Livesey ( I think - may need a check on Thomas's parents)

It's then Sarah's parents I am looking for - if it is correct Samuel & Sarah she was born abt 1851 Casleton and her father should be the John I am looking for

Is that any easier ?????????

Deb x

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 May 2008 02:58

The short answer is NO

Not yet found a Thomas 1875 with parents of Samuel and Sarah

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 May 2008 03:00

Has Thomas b 1875 got a middle name?

1891 poss
Name: Samuel Butterworth
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Castleton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Castleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
Town: Castleton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Castleton Further
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
David Butterworth 20
Elizabeth Butterworth 6
Hannah Butterworth 12
James W Butterworth 16
John Butterworth 17
Joseph Butterworth 8
Martha Butterworth 10
Mary Butterworth 10
Samuel Butterworth 40
Sarah Butterworth 41
Sarah A Butterworth 4
Thomas W Butterworth 14 Castleton

All lsited as born Castleton


1881
Name: Sarah Butterworth
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Samuel
Gender: Female
Where born: Castleton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Castleton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 64 Partington Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Castleton Further
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
David Butterworth 10
Hannah Butterworth 2
James Wm. Butterworth 6
John Butterworth 7
Martha Butterworth
Mary Butterworth
Samuel Butterworth 30
Sarah Butterworth 31
Thos.Walker Butterworth 4

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 May 2008 03:09

Oh bother not yet found Samuel or Sarah in 1871

1871 there is this family in right area?

Name: John Livsey
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Rochdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Castleton Further
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 165
Household Members: Name Age
James Livsey 17 Castleton
John Livsey 56
John Livsey 23
Martha Livsey 86 Mother
Robert Livsey 15
Samuel Livsey 13 Castleton
Sarah Livsey 56 Bury

Debbie

Debbie Report 8 May 2008 03:10

Yes Maureen its Walker , clever ;-))

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 May 2008 03:12

1871 poss

Name: Samuel Butterworth
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochdale
Civil Parish: Rochdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Castleton Further
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
David Butterworth 3 months
Samuel Butterworth 20
Sarah Butterworth 31 Rochdale



Wish they would make their minds up as to where they were born

Debbie

Debbie Report 8 May 2008 03:12

Now I think if I am right Sarah's name was Greenhalgh before her mariage to John

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 May 2008 03:15

1861 poss
Name: Sarah Livsey
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Castleton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Castleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Castleton Without
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 60
Household Members: Name Age
James Livsey 6
John Livsey 13 Darcy Leves, Lancashire
Martha Livsey 17 Darcy Leves, Lancashire
Ralph Livsey 19 Darcy Leves, Lancashire
Robert Livsey 5
Samuel Livsey 3
Sarah Livsey 46 Ainsworth, listed as married
Sarah Livsey 11
Mary Taylor 16

Oh typical no sign of husband



1851
Name: Sarah Livsey
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Castleton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: Castleton Moor

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Castleton Without
ED, institution, or vessel: 1i
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 157
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Livsey 15 Bury
James Livsey 5
John Livsey 36 Bolton, carter
John Livsey 3
Martha Livsey 7
Mary Livsey 13
Ralph Livsey 9
Sarah Livsey 36 Bury
Sarah Livsey 1