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His fathers name is on his marriage certificate as Robert Turner she did remarry later to someone called Tuvey,
John Tuvey is one of the witnesses on his marriage certificate, in 1920.
also rung the st pancras library with the address he gave on his marriage certificate, and he is living with Charles, Robert and Ada Tuvey, (not sure if Ada could be his mother) these are obviously his step family, and half brother/sisters.

thanks

Did Alice remarry ? If she was married to James and he died in the same year that Walter was born...he (Walter) might not know his father's name.

Hi
thanks for all of your replys but Alice would have to be married to a Robert, as this is the name of his father on his marriage certificate.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Alice Catherine Staples
Name: Alice Catherine Staples
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Greenwich
County: Greater London, Kent, London
Volume: 1d
Page: 731

This might be Alic in 1891

1891 England Census
about Alice C Staples
Name: Alice C Staples
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Silvertown, Essex, England

Civil Parish: St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emily Godber 14
Nellie L F Marshall 19
Rose Marshall 48
Arthur Read 40
Florence L Salmon 23
Mary A R Salmon 51
Alice C Staples 21


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 500; Folio 26; Page 45; GSU roll: 6095610.

Alice C turner is a Widow on the 1901 census.

There is a death for James Turner 1898 Lewisham.


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Deaths Sep 1898 (>99%)
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Turner James 54 Lewisham 1d 748

This might be the Henry C A mentioned on the 1901 census....only one I could find from the entry


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Births Sep 1896 (>99%)
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Turner Henry Charles A Lewisham 1d 1170

Would think it depends when in the June Quarter they married as to whether they will be on the census together. Census taken on night of 5th April 1891.

Hi Peter,
i do wonder if this is them right age right area, if i can find Robert married to Alice on the 1891 census would be a good possible, or if someone can look up, the address 14 jerrard street lewisham 1899 1900 and see if they were a couple.
many thanks to everybody who has answered this thread.

Hi Nicola,
thanks for your reply the certificate definately says 21, which ties in with his death details.
thanks
Bev

Hi thanks to everyone who answered this thread while i was offline last night,
will try to answer all queries,
Margaret,
Robert was a Waterside Labourer on Walters marriage certificate.
thanks

Marriage from above posting from Peter??


Marriages Jun 1891

Collins James Greenwich 1d 1184
>>Staples Alice Catherine Greenwich 1d 1184
>>Turner James Greenwich 1d 1184
Wade Annie Greenwich 1d 1184

The district Greenwich spans the boundaries of the counties of Greater London, Kent and London
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So Walter James Turner married in St Pancras?. However he need not have been born there.
What was his fathers Roberts occupation from Walters marriage cert please so we can narrow it down?

My mother told me my grandmother was born in a place but I couldnt find her on the census in that place, or her birth. Her father had died before she married but her marriage cert gave his name and occupation. Found them in 1891

A death certificate after 1969 should tell you the place of birth....if the informant knew, of course.

Gwyn

Hi bev...

the reference for his death is volume 19 page0068.
are you sure he was 21 and not 27 when he got married as i had a problem with on of mine where the 1 looked like a 7! still looking for you though..

nicola x

Hi Peter,
thanks thats a great help,
dont think if i send of for his death certificate, it will tell me exactly where he was born, cannot seem to find his birth anywhere, some close matches but not the right ones,
many thanks
Bev

Hi,
I know he died in Bracknell in 1979, and he was in his early eighties,and his marriage certificate states he was married in jan 1920 age 21, so he would have been 21 in Nov 1919.
many thanks
Bev

Could this be the family ?

1901 England Census
about Walter J Turner
Name: Walter J Turner
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Camberwell, London, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:
Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: Plaistow
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 196
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Turner 12
Eleanor Turner 16
Elizabeth Turner 53
Robert Turner 52
Walter J Turner 7




Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1572; Folio: 93; Page: 37.

Hi,
but i cannot seem to find his birth either, have run a thread on this last Friday, but none of them are quite right, so i am going round in circles.
thanks

your grandads birth cert will give her name making it easier ti tie up another marriage