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1871 Census, Just badly transcribed? Help with Cer

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Gemerald

Gemerald Report 23 Oct 2008 15:06

I am looking for a Charlotte Ann(e) Teed, born 1857 Stepney London, living in Bishopwearmouth, Durham.

I have found her on 1861 census, but am struggling on the 1871.
I have found the transcription of a Charlotte Lera, where details other than names fit.

Looking at the original image, it looks like the details i have from 1861 could fit (i will put the two trascriptions in next post.)
Could whoever transcribed the details just not read the original?

Any opinions?

Gemerald

Gemerald Report 23 Oct 2008 15:09

1861:
Name: Charlott Ann Teed
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Stephney, London, England

Civil Parish: Bishopwearmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub registration district: North Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 335
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Teed 44
Charlott Ann Teed 4
Mary Hellen Teed 6
Samuel Pilot Teed 2

1871:
Name: Charlotte Lera
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Petal
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Bishop Wearmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Sunderland
Sub registration district: North Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 111
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Lera 53
Charlotte Lera 14
Jeremiah Lera 9
Mary E Lera 16
Samuel S Lera 12
Petal Podd 41

WelshShirl

WelshShirl Report 23 Oct 2008 15:19

Possible


1871 England Census
about Charlotte Teed
Name: Charlotte Teed
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Downham Market
Town: Downham Market
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View Image
Registration district: Downham
Sub registration district: Downham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members:
Name Age
Charlotte Teed 18
Elizabeth Teed 56
William Teed 59


Gemerald

Gemerald Report 23 Oct 2008 15:28

1881 Census:
(Charlotte's mother Ann)
Name: Ann Teed
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Pilet
Gender: Female
Where born: Wisbeach, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: Hetton Le Hole
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: 18 Downs Lane East
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Houghton Le Spring
Sub registration district: Hetton le Hole
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Bateman 2
Ann Teed 63
Jemima Teed 18
Pilet Teed 52
Sam Pilet Teed 21

-Mary Ann Bateman is given as Grandaughter. I already know that Charlotte Anne Teed married John Stafford Bateman so this fits.

Gemerald

Gemerald Report 23 Oct 2008 15:34

Shirley ~ Thanks, I have considered that one, but it still doesnt explain where Charlotte's siblings Mary Hellen and Samuel Pilot were.
Plus i dont know of any connections with Norfolk and Charlotte was back in Durham by the 1881 census.

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 23 Oct 2008 15:45

Looking at the image for 1871, I would say that it reads as Teed, but what Pilots surname is I cannot be certain, but not Podd.

Gemerald

Gemerald Report 23 Oct 2008 15:49

Thanks Keith, Every detail but the surnames fits. Also i cannot find any record of a Petal Podd except on that census.

Potty

Potty Report 23 Oct 2008 15:51

Petal Podd!!!!! Well I have to admit, I would struggle to transcribe tha family. It does look like Petal but I think I would say Todd. And his occupation? manner? I suppose it could be mariner; place of birth is definitely Wisbeach ( Cambs has been written next to ). Can't for the life of me see where Ireland came from!

Potty

Potty Report 23 Oct 2008 15:59

Looks as if his name was Pilate:

Teed Samuel Pilate Mile End 1c 485

Can't a marriage for Pilate and Ann or Pilate on any other census. Do you have Charlotte's marriage cert for her father's name?

Gemerald

Gemerald Report 23 Oct 2008 16:01

Potty ~ I know, the handwriting is terrible! This is looking more and more like my family.
Ive just found Pilot Tate on the 1841 census in Wisbeach with his father (Samuel) and brothers (Richard and William.) I'm thinking that this is my Pilot Teed/Pilet Teed as well!

Gemerald

Gemerald Report 23 Oct 2008 16:05

Thanks Potty.
I've just found Samuel's Marriage reference as well:
Samuel Pilet Teed JAS 1822 10a 687

I dont believe that the family had a great level of education (Charlotte has signed her daughters birth certificate with an X) so this could explain why the spelling of the name "Pilot" keeps changing.

I have to go out now, but will be back on my Teed search later.

chrisa

chrisa Report 23 Oct 2008 16:26

The 1871 says Pilat Tedd mariner.

The 1861 says Charlottes mother is a sailors wife so I would say it is your family.

x

Potty

Potty Report 23 Oct 2008 16:49

Looks like the index compiler couldn't decide what the surname was - I have checked the images for each Ieed/Seed/Teed entry and the names are all there - problem now is was Ann Seed or Teed?:

Marriages Dec 1854 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Baulson Catherine Shoreditch 1c 406
Ieed Ann Shoreditch 1c 406
Ieed Pilot Shoreditch 1c 406
Seed Ann Shoreditch 1c 406
Seed Pilet Shoreditch 1c 406
Teed Ann Shoreditch 1c 406
Waldron Charles Henry Shoreditch 1c 406

Potty

Potty Report 23 Oct 2008 16:52

Possibly she was a Seaman - widow in 1851:

1851 England Census
about Ann Teed
Name: Ann Teed
[Ann Seaman]
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Father's Name: Daniel
Gender: Female
Where born: Wisbech St Peter, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: Wisbech St Peter
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Wisbech
Sub registration district: Leverington
ED, institution, or vessel: 1h
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Seaman 62
Daniel Seaman 18
George A Seaman 10
Margaret Seaman 13
William H Seaman 15
Ann Teed 32


Potty

Potty Report 23 Oct 2008 17:00

Ann Seaman - possible Teed marriage:

Marriages Sep 1837 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

ALLEN John Wisbeach 14 185
BATTERHAM James Wisbeach 14 185
COTTON Ann Wisbeach 14 185
MILLER Charlotte Matilda Wisbech 14 185
SEAMAN Ann Wisbeach 14 185
TEED William Wisbeach 14 185
WARD Thomas Wisbech 14 185
WOOD Jane Wisbech 14 1

From the IGI:
Ann Seaman Pedigree
Father: Daniel Seaman Family
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages:
Spouse: William Teed Family
Marriage: 07 SEP 1837 St Peter, Wisbech, Cambridge, England



Potty

Potty Report 23 Oct 2008 17:06

Ann's Baptism (IGI extracted):

Ann Seaman Pedigree
:
Christening: 02 AUG 1817 St Peter'S, Wisbech, Cambridge, England

Parents:
Father: Daniel Seaman Family
Mother: Ellen

Potty

Potty Report 23 Oct 2008 17:08

Possibly a sister who died:

Ann Seaman Pedigree

Christening: 05 MAR 1814 St Peter'S, Wisbech, Cambridge, England

Parents:
Father: Daniel Seaman Family
Mother: Eleanor

Potty

Potty Report 23 Oct 2008 17:14

Rather an odd thing on the IGI - the batch for baptisms for Wisbech is only bringing up female names no males at all.

Potty

Potty Report 23 Oct 2008 17:38

Possibly two children from Ann's first marriage (the Felds; image says Teed):
1841 England Census
about Daniel Seaman
Name: Daniel Seaman
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Wisbeach St Peter
Hundred: Wisbeach (Isle of Ely)
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Wisbech
Sub registration district: St Peter
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Seaman 50
Elenor Seaman 45
Henry Seaman 15
James Seaman 12
Daniel Seaman 9
William Feld 5
Margaret Feld 3


Struggling to find Ann and William

Potty

Potty Report 23 Oct 2008 17:48

Hope all this helps. Have to log off now - dog training night!