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Lania

Lania Report 29 Oct 2008 17:02

I am really confused about who William Smailes born 1831 married. I was told through a hot match that he married two women and had 9 children however as i am going through the family this does not seem to match. His mother was Jane Aynsley born 1821 and his father was Thomas Smailes born 1811. So could anyone help me find out if this is true. Thank you to anyone who helps.

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 29 Oct 2008 17:03

Where was he born?

Are you sure about his mother's birth year?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Oct 2008 17:09

by what you're telling us his mother had a different surname from him and was only ten when she had him

Lania

Lania Report 29 Oct 2008 17:10

He was born in Tanfield, Northumberland and his mother was born in Northumberland and it may be a couple of years out

Lania

Lania Report 29 Oct 2008 17:12

I never realised that she would of only been ten. Maybe all the information i received through the hot match was wrong.

PaulaW

PaulaW Report 29 Oct 2008 17:14

THOMAS SMAILES Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: JANE AYNSLEY Family
Marriage: 07 APR 1832 Saint Andrew, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England


Ericthered

Ericthered Report 29 Oct 2008 17:15

Be wary about other peoples' info, until you have checked it yourself!

1861 census...............is this the correct person?


Name: William Smailes
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Isabella
Gender: Male
Where born: Tanfield, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Tanfield
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Durham
Sub registration district: Tanfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Isabella Smailes 24
Thomas Smailes 1
William Smailes 30

Lania

Lania Report 29 Oct 2008 17:15

Maybe Jane is Thomas's sister, that is all i can think of. If anyone could find out i would be extremely grateful.

David

David Report 29 Oct 2008 17:17

A quick look at the census shows at least 3 William Smailes c1831 Tanfield, so that's where the confusion may arise.

Tanfield seems to be part of Chester le Street, Durham

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 29 Oct 2008 17:17

BTW..Tanfield is Durham.....not Northumberland!

Have you done any research on this chap?

Have you found him on the FREE 1881 census?

PaulaW

PaulaW Report 29 Oct 2008 17:19

Birth of Thomas Jnr

THOMAS SMAILES Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 12 MAY 1833 Ulgham, Northumberland, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: THOMAS SMAILES Family
Mother: JANE

Lania

Lania Report 29 Oct 2008 17:20

I am trying to research it now because i was trying to piece things together and it wasnt working with the information i was given so i am trying to start all over again

PaulaW

PaulaW Report 29 Oct 2008 17:21

I have posted above Thomas and Jane marriage and also the birth of Thomas Jnr. These are from familysearch and are submitted records so would need to be verified.

Regards Paula

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 29 Oct 2008 17:22

How did you arrive at William?

Which of his children is your direct ancestor?

Perhaps we can help you work backwards.....rather than forwards?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 29 Oct 2008 17:24

Lania, I think you're going about this the wrong way. It's much better to work backwards through the censuses, starting with the person who you know definitely is yours.
Are you definitely descended from this William Swailes? How? Through which child?

PaulaW

PaulaW Report 29 Oct 2008 17:25

This could be Thomas Snr with Jane??

Thomas SMAILS Head M Male 67 Kirkbrigston, Northumberland, England General Laborer
Jane SMAILS Wife M Female 69 Ford, Northumberland, England
Mary Jane SMAILS Daur U Female 19 Kirknewton, Northumberland, England Ag Lab


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Source Information:
Census Place Ford, Northumberland, England
Family History Library Film 1342239
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5133 / 50
Page Number 4

1881 census

Lania

Lania Report 29 Oct 2008 17:25

My nans nan is Eleanor Smailes born 1891 i believe her parents were James and Jane. Then James parents i believe are Thomas and Jane. I found out who James siblings were and now i am trying to find out who they married

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 29 Oct 2008 17:26

Snap! Eric, great minds think alike!
(Course idiots sometimes think alike, too!)

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 29 Oct 2008 17:30

here we go, then................

1901

Name: Eleanor Smailes
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: South Shields

Civil Parish: South Shields
Ecclesiastical parish: Harton All Saints
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: South Shields
Sub registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 78
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 173
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Harbottle 77
Ralph Harbottle 76
Eleanor Smailes 10
Jane Smailes 50 b. Bedlington, North'd
John G Smailes 17 b. Boldon, Co. Durham

The Harbottles are Jane's parents

PaulaW

PaulaW Report 29 Oct 2008 17:31

Here is the 1881 census for Durham showing a marriage to Isabella so not sure if you want Durham or Northumberland as you stated

Thomas SMAILES Head M Male 54 Tanfield, Durham, England Colliery Engineman (Driver)
Isabella SMAILES Wife M Female 50 Tanfield, Durham, England
John SMAILES Son W Male 24 Tanfield, Durham, England Grocers Assistant
Mary SMAILES Daur U Female 20 Tanfield, Durham, England Dressmaker
Sarah J. SMAILES Daur U Female 17 Tanfield, Durham, England
Nicholas SMAILES Son Male 12 Tanfield, Durham, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling No 78
Census Place Tanfield, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342188
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4942 / 66
Page Number 17