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Linda: I would be interested to hear how this all turns out!

Alviegal, thank you for the lookups. I'm surprised we can't find Thomasin in 1890/1891. I have a feeling that she was back in the UK by then, but I'll take another peek in America in case I missed something. (I can't search Canadian records thoroughly, or I would look there, as well.)

Hello Lisa & ***alviegal***

I Emailed the Cemetery, I have had a reply, they were able to tell me his burial Date & plot No too.
There was no other family that had been buried there. No mention of his wife.
The Cemetery was mainly for the Printers.
They kindly gave me the address where to send for his Death Certificate

I searched for a Birth on Eleanor Browell 1886. In the St Catherine`s Index. I could`nt find her in that year...I looked into Jan / feb/ mar Qtr 1887. unfortunately the Index was unreadable.

Linda x

***alviegal***

That is Thomasin, wife of James Browell.

Thanks for your help!

Linda x

Lisa this is all that is showing for Thomasin. Can't find an 1891 for her.


Thomasin Barker Dodd Todd
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Chester Le Street
County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 416 (click to see others on page)



1871 England Census
about Thomasine Barker Todd
Name: Thomasine Barker Todd
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: High Flatts, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Pelton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Chester Le Street
Sub registration district: Chester le Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 169
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Todd 8 b High Flatts
Frances Todd 10 b High Flatts
James Todd 35 coalminer, b Embleton, Northumberland
Jane Todd 36 b Felling, Durham
John Todd 5 b High Flatts
Matthew Todd 4 months b Perkinsville, Durham
Thomas Todd 2 b High Flatts
Thomasine Barker Todd 6 b High Flatts

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1881 England Census
about Thomasin B. Todd
Name: Thomasin B. Todd
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Chester, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Newcastle On Tyne St Andrew
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address: 2 Belle Grove Villas
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Genl (Domestic)

Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Marie Nicholson 26
Mary Park 31
Ann E. Porter 43
Edwin S. Porter 2
Emma B. Porter 14
Ethel W. Porter 13
Evaline C. Porter 8
Helen E. Porter 1
Ida D. Porter 10
James W. Porter 41
Mabel W. Porter 6
Robert C. Porter 12
Thomasin B. Todd 16

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James Browell 1882 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
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Elizabeth Hedley 1882 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
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Thomoson Todd 1882 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
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William Tubman 1882 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear



Liz

Linda:
You might be able to use this site, to ask if they have directories for Colorado Springs. Perhaps Thomasin(a) might be in a Colorado Springs directory in 1894 or 1895. Or, James might be in one in 1891, which could let you know where they were living prior to the union home. They also may be able to tell you how to order a death certificate.
http://www.askcolorado.org/info/index.html

I believe this is the site you need, but I cannot access their birth / death certificates. Perhaps if you send an email, inquiring how to order it?
http://www.elpasoco.com/

I did a search and found this:
http://www.elpasocountyhealth.org/pdf/vital_records/deathapplication.pdf

Hi Linda: :( What a sad way to end a life; not being able to see your loved ones. I wonder what James' letter said? Perhaps you could find out additional information by following that lead???

I've been looking around and don't see anything new. I have to get some things done now (it's midday here) but will be back later tonight.

Don't remember if it's been discussed...have you looked for Thomasina in England in 1891?

Hi Lisa.

I do know James middle name was` Martin` as this is his mothers Maiden name.

I am also going to search BMDs at the library to see if I can find a Birth of Eleanor Browell, if yes then I will check with the relevent office to see if it is the same parents.

I wish I knew how to get the address to send for James Death Certificate to find who registered him.

Linda x

Hi Lisa.

I think "this city`` means Newcastle upon Tyne.England. I think it was mean`t for James.

I read up about the Union printers home, very interesting, it was opened in 1890 solely for the printers, it was for the men who became very sick mainly T.B., The wives & Widows were not allowed to visit the home at all.

reading the information it sounds the men went in the home alive came out Dead.
It is now a Hospital.!

The name `Browell`` is mainly from the North-East of England, it is a rare name even moreso now.

I am going to start writing that letter, I will certainly let you know if I hear anything back.

Many thanks
Linda x

There is an Edward Browell, 1901 England Census, Northumberland. I wonder if he is the same Edward as above? If so, would that entry give you any clues to your family?

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878 - 1960
James Edward Browell
Cannot view full details (Also, Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-`935)

Clutching at straws...on FreeBMD
There is a birth for a Bertie Browell Mar 1885, Newcastle T. You mentioned there are Eleanor's in the family. Perhaps she was known by her middle name until she was older (and other older rellies passed away)?

In one of my families, James was a common name. In order to avoid confusion, the children were not called James until they were older, and until the older James men had died.

There is also an Edward Browell, Dec 1886, Newcastle T. I wonder if either child was James and Thomasin(a)'s?

Hi Linda:
Living in California, born in Ontario, Canada with Irish and English ancestors - I've learned how to search the internet! ;)

I may be incorrect, but I wonder if Thomasin was still living in "this city"? Or, did the notice strictly mean James "of this city"?

If you receive information from the cemetery office, I would love to hear what they say.

The information I gave you must be for your James. Browell apparently was a somewhat uncommon name in North America. By the way, I have a Brownell/Browning ancestor; it's difficult to find their information as well! Sometimes the uncommon names are harder to find than the common names.

Knowing that James is "yours" I will look again for Thomasin(a) and Eleanor.

It's sad to hear about the early deaths, but perhaps in James' case, it could have had something to do with the extreme weather?

I also tried looking in Canada for Thomasin(a), with no results.

Off now to search again. :)

Hello Lisa,

I am totally convinced this is my Gt grandfathers brother James. Below I have C&P his Obituary for you to read.
His parents are also mentioned, they are my Gt gt Grandparents..

OBITUARY: Browell.-At the union home.Colorado Springs.America On Nov 30th.aged 35yrs. James Martin. Son of Hannah Jane and the late William Henry Browell and beloved husband of Thomasin Browell of this city- Evening Chronicle 1893.

The Evening Chronicle is in Newcastle upon Tyne, England. I assume it has to be my Gr grandmother or one of James Siblings who had put the obituary in the paper.

James brother (my gt Grandfather) was only 40yrs of age when he died,

I cannot than you enough for all the information you have found & given me. I am in debt with you.

I am a novice when it comes to searching the internet.

I have`nt found the birth of Eleanor Browell.

Many Thanks again.
Linda x

There may be quite a few Browell's in Colorado, but...
http://www.aclin.org/
search text: Browell
5. Browell family file.
"Family files contain biographical and/or genealogical information about people from this area of Colorado. Each file contains material pertaining to people who share a family name. Expect to find newspaper clippings, family charts, transcriptions of interviews, correspondence, references to further resources outside the file itself, etc. These files may be viewed at the Royal Gorge Regional Museum and History Center at 612 Royal Gorge Boulevard in Canon City, Colorado."

I'm not sure how you can view it, but I wanted to mention it anyway.

This site also has digital collections and newspapers, but I didn't see anything for your Browell.
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A few photographs of the Union Printers' Home
http://www.ppld.org/SpecialCollections/project/BySubject.aspx

Here are some wonderful photographs of Colorado, from most decades:
http://www.ppld.org/SpecialCollections/project/

Linda:
I wonder if you can follow up on this somehow?

http://genealogytrails.com/colo/elpaso/news/misc.html

Miscellaneous newspaper articles about El Paso County
"March 28, 1893
Middletown Daily Times, Middletown New York
Criticises the Printers' Home.
Indianapolis, March 28-James Browell, formerly a printer in this city, now at the Union Printers' home at Colorado Springs, Colo., has written a letter to a friend here in which he makes serious charges against the management."

There is no mention of his wife. I wonder if she stayed in New York, or if she died prior to James?

Are you sure this James is your James? I wonder why he would be in a printers' home?
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If this was your James, perhaps he was ill. It is quite a bit larger than I imagined! You can google, to find out information about it. eBay has a postcard dated c1920. (Cannot copy address; it's too long to fit here.)

http://www.westword.com/1994-05-11/news/the-castle-on-the-hill/
One article about the home.

Hi Linda:

Perhaps this is James?
New York Directory, 1888-1890
James Browell
Year: 1889, 1890
Location 2: 34 Pros pect (imagine it would be Prospect)
City: Brooklyn
State, New York
Occupation: Printer
Cannot find him listed in any other directories.

Did it give an occupation in the newspaper article, please?

"Congress passed the first law regulating naturalization in 1790 (1 Stat. 103). As a general rule, naturalization was a two-step process that took a minimum of 5 years. After residing in the United States for 2 years, an alien could file a "declaration of intent" (so-called "first papers") to become a citizen. After 3 additional years, the alien could "petition for naturalization." After the petition was granted, a certificate of citizenship was issued to the alien. These two steps did not have to take place in the same court. As a general rule, the "declaration of intent" generally contains more genealogically useful information than the "petition." The "declaration" may include the alien's month and year (or possibly the exact date) of immigration into the United States."
http://www.archives.gov/genealogy/naturalization/naturalization.html

Hi Linda: I'm not sure what "time" you mean (before arriving in the states, or after), but when trying to help other people, I have seen several naturalization records. So, yes, she could have applied for citizenship once she arrived in the states. I believe they had to be in the states for 3 years, then wait another 4???

Are you able to find a birth for Eleonor?

hi lisa.

James occupation in 1881 was a Printers Compositor .

Linda x

Hi.

I found a birth of a Thomasin Barker Todd born 1864 Chester le Street. County Durham. England. That could be a her, ..Also the name Eleanor is very prominent in the Browell line too.

Could Thomasin apply for Citizenship in Usa at that time.

Linda x