Find Ancestors

Top tip - using the Genes Reunited community

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

  • The Genes Reunited community is made up of millions of people with similar interests. Discover your family history and make life long friends along the way.
  • You will find a close knit but welcoming group of keen genealogists all prepared to offer advice and help to new members.
  • And it's not all serious business. The boards are often a place to relax and be entertained by all kinds of subjects.
  • The Genes community will go out of their way to help you, so don’t be shy about asking for help.

Quick Search

Single word search

Icons

  • New posts
  • No new posts
  • Thread closed
  • Stickied, new posts
  • Stickied, no new posts

Usa Census 1891 / 1901 lookup needed.

Page 1 + 1 of 3

  1. «
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. »
ProfilePosted byOptionsPost Date

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 2 Nov 2008 02:32

There may be quite a few Browell's in Colorado, but...
http://www.aclin.org/
search text: Browell
5. Browell family file.
"Family files contain biographical and/or genealogical information about people from this area of Colorado. Each file contains material pertaining to people who share a family name. Expect to find newspaper clippings, family charts, transcriptions of interviews, correspondence, references to further resources outside the file itself, etc. These files may be viewed at the Royal Gorge Regional Museum and History Center at 612 Royal Gorge Boulevard in Canon City, Colorado."

I'm not sure how you can view it, but I wanted to mention it anyway.

This site also has digital collections and newspapers, but I didn't see anything for your Browell.
---------------------
A few photographs of the Union Printers' Home
http://www.ppld.org/SpecialCollections/project/BySubject.aspx

Here are some wonderful photographs of Colorado, from most decades:
http://www.ppld.org/SpecialCollections/project/

Linda

Linda Report 2 Nov 2008 04:21

Hello Lisa,

I am totally convinced this is my Gt grandfathers brother James. Below I have C&P his Obituary for you to read.
His parents are also mentioned, they are my Gt gt Grandparents..

OBITUARY: Browell.-At the union home.Colorado Springs.America On Nov 30th.aged 35yrs. James Martin. Son of Hannah Jane and the late William Henry Browell and beloved husband of Thomasin Browell of this city- Evening Chronicle 1893.

The Evening Chronicle is in Newcastle upon Tyne, England. I assume it has to be my Gr grandmother or one of James Siblings who had put the obituary in the paper.

James brother (my gt Grandfather) was only 40yrs of age when he died,

I cannot than you enough for all the information you have found & given me. I am in debt with you.

I am a novice when it comes to searching the internet.

I have`nt found the birth of Eleanor Browell.

Many Thanks again.
Linda x

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 2 Nov 2008 20:00

Hi Linda:
Living in California, born in Ontario, Canada with Irish and English ancestors - I've learned how to search the internet! ;)

I may be incorrect, but I wonder if Thomasin was still living in "this city"? Or, did the notice strictly mean James "of this city"?

If you receive information from the cemetery office, I would love to hear what they say.

The information I gave you must be for your James. Browell apparently was a somewhat uncommon name in North America. By the way, I have a Brownell/Browning ancestor; it's difficult to find their information as well! Sometimes the uncommon names are harder to find than the common names.

Knowing that James is "yours" I will look again for Thomasin(a) and Eleanor.

It's sad to hear about the early deaths, but perhaps in James' case, it could have had something to do with the extreme weather?

I also tried looking in Canada for Thomasin(a), with no results.

Off now to search again. :)

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 2 Nov 2008 20:17

Clutching at straws...on FreeBMD
There is a birth for a Bertie Browell Mar 1885, Newcastle T. You mentioned there are Eleanor's in the family. Perhaps she was known by her middle name until she was older (and other older rellies passed away)?

In one of my families, James was a common name. In order to avoid confusion, the children were not called James until they were older, and until the older James men had died.

There is also an Edward Browell, Dec 1886, Newcastle T. I wonder if either child was James and Thomasin(a)'s?

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 2 Nov 2008 20:24

There is an Edward Browell, 1901 England Census, Northumberland. I wonder if he is the same Edward as above? If so, would that entry give you any clues to your family?

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878 - 1960
James Edward Browell
Cannot view full details (Also, Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-`935)

Linda

Linda Report 2 Nov 2008 20:32

Hi Lisa.

I think "this city`` means Newcastle upon Tyne.England. I think it was mean`t for James.

I read up about the Union printers home, very interesting, it was opened in 1890 solely for the printers, it was for the men who became very sick mainly T.B., The wives & Widows were not allowed to visit the home at all.

reading the information it sounds the men went in the home alive came out Dead.
It is now a Hospital.!

The name `Browell`` is mainly from the North-East of England, it is a rare name even moreso now.

I am going to start writing that letter, I will certainly let you know if I hear anything back.

Many thanks
Linda x

Linda

Linda Report 2 Nov 2008 20:45

Hi Lisa.

I do know James middle name was` Martin` as this is his mothers Maiden name.

I am also going to search BMDs at the library to see if I can find a Birth of Eleanor Browell, if yes then I will check with the relevent office to see if it is the same parents.

I wish I knew how to get the address to send for James Death Certificate to find who registered him.

Linda x

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 2 Nov 2008 20:48

Hi Linda: :( What a sad way to end a life; not being able to see your loved ones. I wonder what James' letter said? Perhaps you could find out additional information by following that lead???

I've been looking around and don't see anything new. I have to get some things done now (it's midday here) but will be back later tonight.

Don't remember if it's been discussed...have you looked for Thomasina in England in 1891?

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 3 Nov 2008 01:52

I believe this is the site you need, but I cannot access their birth / death certificates. Perhaps if you send an email, inquiring how to order it?
http://www.elpasoco.com/

I did a search and found this:
http://www.elpasocountyhealth.org/pdf/vital_records/deathapplication.pdf

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 3 Nov 2008 05:24

Linda:
You might be able to use this site, to ask if they have directories for Colorado Springs. Perhaps Thomasin(a) might be in a Colorado Springs directory in 1894 or 1895. Or, James might be in one in 1891, which could let you know where they were living prior to the union home. They also may be able to tell you how to order a death certificate.
http://www.askcolorado.org/info/index.html

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Nov 2008 09:58

Lisa this is all that is showing for Thomasin. Can't find an 1891 for her.


Thomasin Barker Dodd Todd
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Chester Le Street
County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 416 (click to see others on page)



1871 England Census
about Thomasine Barker Todd
Name: Thomasine Barker Todd
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: High Flatts, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Pelton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View Image
Registration district: Chester Le Street
Sub registration district: Chester le Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 169
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Todd 8 b High Flatts
Frances Todd 10 b High Flatts
James Todd 35 coalminer, b Embleton, Northumberland
Jane Todd 36 b Felling, Durham
John Todd 5 b High Flatts
Matthew Todd 4 months b Perkinsville, Durham
Thomas Todd 2 b High Flatts
Thomasine Barker Todd 6 b High Flatts

View
Original
Record




1881 England Census
about Thomasin B. Todd
Name: Thomasin B. Todd
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Chester, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Newcastle On Tyne St Andrew
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address: 2 Belle Grove Villas
Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Occupation: Genl (Domestic)

Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Marie Nicholson 26
Mary Park 31
Ann E. Porter 43
Edwin S. Porter 2
Emma B. Porter 14
Ethel W. Porter 13
Evaline C. Porter 8
Helen E. Porter 1
Ida D. Porter 10
James W. Porter 41
Mabel W. Porter 6
Robert C. Porter 12
Thomasin B. Todd 16

View
Original
Record

View original image



James Browell 1882 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
View Record
Elizabeth Hedley 1882 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
View Record
Thomoson Todd 1882 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
View Record
William Tubman 1882 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear



Liz

Linda

Linda Report 3 Nov 2008 12:51

***alviegal***

That is Thomasin, wife of James Browell.

Thanks for your help!

Linda x

Linda

Linda Report 5 Nov 2008 18:13

Hello Lisa & ***alviegal***

I Emailed the Cemetery, I have had a reply, they were able to tell me his burial Date & plot No too.
There was no other family that had been buried there. No mention of his wife.
The Cemetery was mainly for the Printers.
They kindly gave me the address where to send for his Death Certificate

I searched for a Birth on Eleanor Browell 1886. In the St Catherine`s Index. I could`nt find her in that year...I looked into Jan / feb/ mar Qtr 1887. unfortunately the Index was unreadable.

Linda x

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 6 Nov 2008 01:48

Linda: I would be interested to hear how this all turns out!

Alviegal, thank you for the lookups. I'm surprised we can't find Thomasin in 1890/1891. I have a feeling that she was back in the UK by then, but I'll take another peek in America in case I missed something. (I can't search Canadian records thoroughly, or I would look there, as well.)

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 6 Nov 2008 09:09

there is a family in 1891 census mistranscibed as Browde, living in Co Durham

Class: RG12; Piece: 4174; Folio 28; Page 54


Thomasena b 1865 Durham - married
James b 1884 Newcastle
Bertie b 1885 Newcastle
Edward b 1887 Newcastle

Linda

Linda Report 6 Nov 2008 11:05

Lisa / Jeanette

Thanks for your help.
I cannot access the census as I have`nt a Subscription.

My daughter is going to help me draft a letter & I will get it sent off for James Death certificate, hopefully they will have there registration going back into that Timeframe.

Regards
Linda x

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Nov 2008 20:28

Well done Jeanette! I really think you may have found her. The image could definately be Browell and she is married but hubby is not there.
She is living at 11 Railway Place and next door is a 22 year old coalminer born in Pelton, named Thomas Todd with his wife Jane and 10 month old son James, who was born in Felling.


1891 England Census
about Thomasina Browde
Name: Thomasina Browde
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham, England

Civil Parish: Heworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Felling
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub registration district: Heworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Bertis Browde 6
Edward Browde 4
James Browde 7
Thomasina Browde 26

View
Original
Record

View original image
View



Liz

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Nov 2008 20:37

Births Dec 1886 (>99%)
Browell Edward Newcastle T. 10b 142


Births Mar 1885 (>99%)
Browell Bertie Newcastle T 10b 153


Not sure about this one.


Births Jun 1880 (>99%)
BROWELL James Newcastle T. 10b 31

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Nov 2008 20:43

And look at this one!!



1901 England Census
about Bertie Browell
Name: Bertie Browell
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Stepson
Mother's Name: Thomason
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 56
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 66
Household Members:
Name Age
Bertie Browell 16 step son, blacksmith stoker
Edward Browell 14 step son, newspaper seller, hawk
James Browell 17 step son, engine cleaner, ED
William Browell 12 step son, b Heworth, Durham
Thomas Hayes 46 boarder
Jennie Mc Mullen 6 b Heworth
John Mc Mullen 4 b Gateshead
Michael Mc Mullen 38 pipe layer gas w, b County Derry, Ireland
Michael Mc Mullen 2 b Gateshead
Patrick Mc Mullen 6 months b Gateshead
Thomason Mc Mullen 36 b Pelton, Durham
Owen Murphy 46 boarder

View
Original
Record

View original image
View blank form

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Nov 2008 21:05

Maybe this is young William at the Children's Hospital in 1891. He's not with his mum and brothers.

Browell
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Patient
Gender: Male
Where born: Gateshead, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Maud Alfrey 22
John Bagelly 2
Emily Bolton 23
William Browell 2
Edwina M Devary 41
Kate Douglass 2
William Graham 11
John Hobbs 8
Margaret Keenom 8
John Lennox 13
Margaret Ridley 10
Marion Steel 5
John Thomas 4
Eleanor E Thompson 10
Lilly Wade 17
Lizzie Wade 21

View
Original
Record

View original image
View blank



Births Mar 1889 (>99%)
Browell William Gateshead 10a 783



Liz