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Carol

Carol Report 21 Nov 2008 19:33

THANK YOU TO EVERYONE OUT THERE WHO HAS HELPED ME. absolutely amazing.

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Helen

Helen Report 21 Nov 2008 18:11

Just seen it, mystery solved, jenny is jane

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 21 Nov 2008 18:05

Did anyone else notice that in 1901 the Taylors are living in a caravan group and Jenny is a showwoman?!

How exciting!

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 21 Nov 2008 18:03

Jane ... Jenny ... Jenny is a nickname for Jane.

In the 1881 household:


Name: Jane Holland
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Where born: Tudhoe Grange, Durham, England


1881:

Jane Holland 3
Margaret Holland
Mary Ann Holland 31
William Holland 32
William Holland 5
Elizath. Wilson 11


1891:

William Holland 44
Mary A Holland 41
Elizabeth Holland 21
William Holland 16
Jane Holland 13
Margaret Holland 10
Robert Holland 8
Peter Holland 5
Thomas Holland 2 weeks
Robert Wilson 66 - boarder, presumably Mary Ann's father

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 21 Nov 2008 18:02

It's a submitted not extracted record, Helen. Very probably the right person (matches with the William and Mary Ann in the 1891 record I was looking at), but the dates might not be reliable.

On the other hand, the age on the 1901 census might not be reliable!

David

David Report 21 Nov 2008 18:02

She would probably been the 3/13 year old Jane on the 1881 and 1891 census.

Helen

Helen Report 21 Nov 2008 17:58

Jenny Holland Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
29 NOV 1877 Spennymoor, Durham, England
Christening:
Death:
08 FEB 1953
Burial:

Parents:
Father: William Holland Family
Mother: Mary Ann wilson

Just found this, dont know if it might be of any use

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 21 Nov 2008 17:42

Confusing, eh?

If she had married before, she would have married under her first married surname, but the surname on her children's birth certificate would have been her birth surname.

Supposedly, anyhow! Not everybody followed the rules, lol.

I'm just wondering about a Thomas Holland who is 2 weeks old in 1891, living with parents William and Mary Ann in Spennymoor.


Name: Thomas Holland
Age: 2 weeks
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary A
Where born: Spennymoor, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Whitworth
Town: Spennymoor

William is from Wales and Mary Ann is from Durham.

This could make Thomas Jenny's brother, or son being reared by her parents.


If we knew Jenny's father's name ...

David

David Report 21 Nov 2008 17:28

btw the place of birth looks like Spennymoor which is in Auckland District.

There is only one Jennie born in 1868 in Auckland and that is Jennie Robson.

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 21 Nov 2008 17:21

There is no birth of a Jenn* Holland registered in Durham 1865-1870.

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 21 Nov 2008 17:16

Carol, are you wanting to go farther back than Jennie?

I'm not seeing her in earlier censuses. I was wondering whether Thomas was a child of hers before marriage, or a child of her husband's from a previous marriage, etc.

If you would just give the information you have!!!

Her mother was Mary Ann. Her father?? Any siblings?

Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Nov 2008 17:14

Maybe Thomas is from a previous marriage?

Carol

Carol Report 21 Nov 2008 17:06

I will check this one out, as I have never heard a Thomas mentioned, but I may be wrong. Did it say Jennie as opposed to Jenny in the census. I have just remembered that I have a jet brooch with Mary Ann Holland on it so that must have been Jenny's mother (my great great grandma).

Linda

Linda Report 21 Nov 2008 17:05

Marriages Sep 1899

Holland Jenny Auckland 10a 404
Taylor Joseph Auckland 10a 404

Births Dec 1911
Taylor John W Holland Auckland 10a 439

Births Sep 1900

Taylor Mary Eliza Auckland 10a 227

Births Sep 1902 ?
Taylor William Auckland 10a 215

Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/search

you will find other children listed there



Helen

Helen Report 21 Nov 2008 17:03

1901 England Census
about Jennie Taylor
Name: Jennie Taylor
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Sperryman, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Jarrow
Ecclesiastical parish: Jarrow on Tyne St Peter
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: South Shields
Sub registration district: Jarrow
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 244
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza Taylor 9 Mo
Jennie Taylor 33
Joseph Taylor 34
Thomas Taylor 10 (Son)

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Carol

Carol Report 21 Nov 2008 17:02

Ooops sorry, her name was Mary Eliza. She must have been the eldest. Your are all brilliant.

Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Nov 2008 17:01

When would Jenny have been born and what was your grandmothers name?

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 21 Nov 2008 16:58

Can you give us your grandmother's name, Carol??

It's hard to search for someone when you don't know who they are ...

David

David Report 21 Nov 2008 16:57

EB

They married in 1899 so most of the children may have been born before 1911.

Carol

Carol Report 21 Nov 2008 16:57

Hi

Well my grandma was born in 1900, so maybe thats the one. You are fantastic. I do hope this is correct. My grandmother was born on 2 July 1900 so would she have been on 1901 census?