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Evie - remember Elizabeth has a married name of Baron

Ann - yes 70% whoppeee!! to be fair I have managed to track down quite a lot already e.g. my mother's mother (my maternal grandmother) died when my mother was only 6 and ties to that side of the family were lost. My mother never knew the names of her maternal grandparents even though we had photos of them (they were just called Mum & Dad). I've managed to find them up at the British Library, so I cannot complain at all, well not much anyway!

I don't see the Barons in the 1901 census. Son married in India in 1890 -- might they have returned as well?

I have a marriage into the Lovett Cameron family -- Scottish Camerons -- in my tree, a branch of which ("mine") had a generation all born in India in the 1840s-50s. My particular individual returned to India with his bride in the early 1890s (and became chief of works in Bombay), after a couple of decades in England. Their kids all got sent home to Sussex to school for the 1901 census, luckily for me.

So many things are possible. Elizabeth's mother may have been Irish, her father not. One might think it's the surname that's Irish though, lol.

What would we do without a good mystery in our tree?!

Opportunity I guess took people to India - not quite the gold rush but people were certainly very mobile in the 19th century.

"remember Elizabeth has a married name of Baron" - ?

Ah ... I had hit on a Thomas and Elizabeth Baron who weren't them, I believe. Oops. They stayed in India?

I've outlived my usefulness at this point I think!

I've managed to track down most of the issue of Thomas and Elizabeth to here in the UK or Australia. Some are missing though. Many of T&E's children although born in India travelled to the UK on a number of occasions but from around 1895 to 1930s - I've managed to trace them on ships lists.

I'm sure this is becoming an unhealthy obsession!

Evie I can't be sure they stayed in India - I haven't found any burials there.

Richard

I was at Kew today, so looked in the index to officers records and he wasn't there. Also not in the Army List 1859/60 of 1857/8. In the Indian Army List there was a Thomas Henry Bowman Barron, Lieutenant in Bombay, Date of Commission 11/11/58. Don't know whether this is the same man?

you know, people on this site are just great!!!!

Thank you very much for taking the trouble to look in the records at Kew - you are most kind.

Thomas Henry Bowman Barron is a possibility but the obvious difference in the extra "r" together with an unfamiliar middle name of Bowman makes it less probable. However one of his sons was Thomas Henry, but I think the Henry came from his father's twin brother who died in infancy. Still, you never know.
Working with this theory though I am unaware of my Thomas Baron having any middle names Born 1837 in Chorlton on Medlock parents Thomas and Hannah, IGI shows Thomas only.
Do you know if the IGI films contain further info to that available on familysearch? Perhaps a middle name that doesn't appear on an internet search?

I don't suppose the records you found show anything other than date of commission e.g age or regiment.

I believe my Thomas Baron went to India as a Medical Officer which would tend to suggest he joined the army here and might have been posted there with his regiment??? All guesswork I know!

I would have thought that all names would appear on the IGI, but it's always advisable, of course, to check the original. I'm sure it did give his regiment, although I didn't look as I wasn't sure that it was the right man. It definitely wouldn't give his age, though. I'd have thought the India Office would be your best bet. Hopefully they might have Indian Army records or he may be listed in Directories if he wasn't in the Army. The Army List of course only lists Officers, so he may have been another rank, but if he was in the British Army you'd need to know his regiment for this period. Worth searching for their deaths in India too, and any will. I find the India Office is brilliant and relatively easy to search for BMD's.

Thank you Ann - I visited the BL IOR last week in search of his marriage without success hence this thread. I shall have to try there again for army records and directories. I have no experience with these though but I'm sure the staff will help. As a novice, last week was the first time I used microfilm!!
I agree the India Office records were easy to search - just not so easy to read, as like a fool, I forgot to take my glasses!

Glasses would be a good idea next time - I'd be virtually blind without mine! The Directories are on open shelves. The staff will help with Army records. Good Luck!