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Australian cricketer-Edgar Arthur McDonald

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Debdob

Debdob Report 1 Jan 2009 16:00

Sue,
Would you know if the marriage for Emily Myrtle Hamill was to Edgar Arthur McDonald, just wondered if it says or not. I shall have a look later.
Thanks Debbie

Sue from Perth Oz

Sue from Perth Oz Report 1 Jan 2009 11:43

Hi Deb

Not sure what the numbers are against the names.
I am not sure if Emily Myrtle Hamill was born in Tasmania.She may have been born in Victoria
If you go to this site it is a pay per view site,and put in Emily Myrtle Hamill and tick birth only one comes up there is also a marriage.

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=getHistIdxSearchCriteria

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 30 Dec 2008 15:35

Hi again Deborah - if a post has been removed it will say "This post has been deleted by the poster or an administrator" - can't see one of those messagesl

There are deletions on your other thread and these could be because maybe someone posted twice by accident, or made a mistake in their posting.

The problem is that if you have duplicate postings you'll get people doing research that has already been done and that's not really fair to people who are trying to help you.

Ann

Debdob

Debdob Report 30 Dec 2008 13:28

Sue, i have just tried that web site you told me about, its quite interesting. Have found the odd snippet of info and am still looking through it to see what else it reveals.
Thanks again

Debdob

Debdob Report 30 Dec 2008 12:38

I thought this board "Tips board" was to ask for tips. which i did. the other board is "trying to find" which i am. I shall take a look at my other thread and take it out if need be.
On this thread somebody has left a post then it has been taken out, why is this i didn't even get to read it.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 30 Dec 2008 12:25

could you possibky delete the other one then please Deborah to avoid people doing searches again on that one

Thanks

Ann

Debdob

Debdob Report 30 Dec 2008 12:18

i posted them at the same time initially before i had any response.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 30 Dec 2008 12:07

"n" means nudge which is what I have done - nudged your thread up for you - so why do a new posting on another board when you already have all this information?

Debdob

Debdob Report 30 Dec 2008 12:05

pardon my ignorance, not used to this part of the site, but what does "n" mean?

Debdob

Debdob Report 30 Dec 2008 12:04

Thanks very much Sue, very helpfull. Could you explain what the numbers are for at the side of the names please. Do you know how i would be able to obtain bmd certificates and how much would they cost.
Debbie

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 30 Dec 2008 12:04

n

Sue from Perth Oz

Sue from Perth Oz Report 29 Dec 2008 22:53

Edgar's siblings


381801 MCDONALD ALMA OLIVE 1893
382187 MCDONALD HILDA DORIS 1897

MCBEAN, JANE
Gender: Female
Birth 1866 - LAUNCESTON,Tasmania
Marriage/Relationship: 1887 - RINGAROOMA,Tasmania ( MCDONALD, ARTHUR ) [@]
Death:

FAMILY INFORMATION
Parents:
11049 ANDERSON JANNETT

Siblings:
378947 MCBEAN JANETT 1859
378955 MCBEAN MARY 1859
378940 MCBEAN F 1862

Marriage

MCBEAN, JOHN
Gender: Male
Birth
Marriage/Relationship: 1859 - LONGFORD,Tasmania ( ANDERSON, JANNETT )

Death

MCBEAN, JANET
Gender: Female
Birth 1829 - SCOTLAND
Marriage/Relationship:
Death: 1893 - LAUNCESTON,Tasmania

This is the Tasmania site to search
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=8

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Dec 2008 22:06

all the census information I have posted is on the free Mormon LDS site - you should take a look

Ann

Debdob

Debdob Report 29 Dec 2008 20:32

Thanks George i've just been on the website you suggested, not only does it have a picture of him but also a picture of a memorial in Blackpoool cemetery with his wife. thanks very much
Debbie

Debdob

Debdob Report 29 Dec 2008 20:15

Thanks very much for all that info, it will take up some time to digest all that. where did you find it?
Thanks again debbie

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Dec 2008 19:54

McDONALD, EDGAR ARTHUR (1891-1937), professional cricketer, was born on 6 January 1891 at Launceston, Tasmania, son of Arthur McDonald, tinsmith, and his wife Jane, née McBean. He was educated at Charles Street School and played cricket for Tasmania in 1909-10 and 1910-11. Then he moved to Victoria, where he played pennant cricket for Fitzroy, swapped his early reputation as a batsman for that of fast bowler, and was included in the Victorian team before the outbreak of World War I. McDonald was picked for Australia in the 1920-21 series against England, when he had three undistinguished if unlucky Tests, and first partnered Jack Gregory with the new ball.


On the tour of England in 1921 McDonald was the outstanding Australian bowler with 150 wickets, including 27 in the Test series which Australia won 3-0. With Gregory, McDonald formed the first great fast-bowling combination in Test cricket history. His Test batting average of 46 (assisted by not outs) was just behind Charles Macartney's. After three more Test matches in South Africa, McDonald ended his Australian career by deciding to play in England on pitches that he had found more responsive. A qualifying season in Lancashire League in 1922 was followed by a highly successful career with the county in 1924-31. When he retired McDonald had taken 1053 wickets for Lancashire, made a maiden first-class century and played much of his finest cricket. On a trip back to Australia, he turned out again for Fitzroy. In 1932 he rejoined Lancashire League and on retirement became a licensed victualler.


Few bowlers have attracted such thoughtful superlatives as 'Ted' McDonald. Johnny Moyes rated him as 'the most gifted fast bowler' and Ian Peebles as 'the most perfect of fast bowlers', confirming the endorsement of Warwick Armstrong, McDonald's captain in 1921. In his account of the 1921 tour, Ronald Mason said that McDonald 'harboured in a not very approachable personality a genuine vein of genius'. He performed best when the opposition was strongest; was until Larwood's advent the fastest bowler in England; and in his fortieth year bowled (Sir) Donald Bradman for nine. McDonald's speed was complemented by an ability to move the ball either way (so far that out-swingers and leg-cutters often missed off stump, Armstrong remembered) and to reduce his pace to bowl off-cutters on slow pitches.


McDonald was tall, slim, powerful, with black hair and a deeply bronzed complexion. T. C. F. Prittie described him as 'the most impressive figure of his day on the cricket field'. His approach to the wicket attracted special notice because of its effortless, gliding motion—'his silent run of sinister grace', (Sir) Neville Cardus called it. To Sir Robert Menzies, McDonald's action suggested silk running off a spool. His feats for Lancashire prompted some of Cardus's most lavish praise: 'A Lucifer of his craft', 'a satanic bowler, menacing but princely'.


On 22 July 1937, McDonald was killed when struck by a car near Bolton, Lancashire. He was survived by his wife Emily Myrtle, née Hamill, whom he had married on 10 April 1920 at Holy Trinity Church, East Melbourne, and their two sons.

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 29 Dec 2008 19:51

Deborah

Info on the career of Edgar arthur Mc Donald cricket archives site.

Here is the link

http://www.cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/0/388/388.html

Also a photo of him

George

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Dec 2008 19:34


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Husband
Thomas Snr Turner Pedigree


Birth: 1823 , , England
Christening:
Marriage: 10 MAR 1853 Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Death: 1882 Flinders, Victoria, Australia
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Wife
Jane Currie Pedigree


Birth: About 1834
Christening:
Marriage: 10 MAR 1853 Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Death:
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Children

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1. Ann Sophia Turner Pedigree
Female

Birth: 20 JAN 1855 Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Christening:
Death:
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2. Thomas Jnr Turner Pedigree
Male

Birth: 17 OCT 1864 Hobart Town, Tasmania, Australia
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Death:
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3. William Turner Pedigree
Male

Birth: 20 SEP 1866 Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Christening:
Death:
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4. Henrietta May Turner Pedigree
Female

Birth: 26 MAY 1878 Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Christening:
Death:
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AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Dec 2008 19:33

Husband
John Turner Pedigree


Birth:
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Wife
Elizabeth Turner Pedigree


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Children

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1. Ann Baily Turner Pedigree
Female

Birth: 03 MAR 1845 Hobart Town, Tasmania, Australia
Christening: 25 MAY 1845 Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Death:
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AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Dec 2008 19:32

Husband
Jospeh Pullen Pedigree


Birth: About 1795 Mayfield, , Gloucester, England
Christening:
Marriage: 19 SEP 1931 Pittwater, Tasmania, Australia
Death: 26 JUN 1844 Sorell, Tasmania, Australia
Burial:





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Wife
Ann Turner Pedigree


Birth: About 1807 , Tasmania, Australia
Christening:
Marriage: 19 SEP 1931 Pittwater, Tasmania, Australia
Death: 06 AUG 1836 Sorell, Tasmania, Australia
Burial:





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Children

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1. Thomas Pullen Pedigree
Male

Birth: 19 OCT 1833 Sorell, Tasmania, Australia
Christening:
Death: 06 OCT 1893 Sorell, Tasmania, Australia
Burial: