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°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 10 Jan 2009 20:32

Amelia Copeland born 1898 Smallthorne Staffordshire? Daughter of Stephen Copeland & his wife Sarah Ellen Holland?

Jeeberella

Jeeberella Report 10 Jan 2009 21:17

Hi Claire thanks so much.

That should be her.

I've just found her on the 1901 census as being aged 3 at smallthorne, is there any chance you can view that, I don't have any credits or anything?

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 10 Jan 2009 21:57

1901 England Census
Name: Amelis Copeland
[Amelia Copeland]
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Stephen
Mother's Name: Sarah E
Gender: Female
Where born: Smallthorne, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Smallthorne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Smallthorne
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: 64 Camp Rd
Occupation:

Registration district: Leek
Sub registration district: Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 152
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Copeland 27 - coal miner; Smallthorne
Sarah E Copeland 28 - Burslem
George T Copeland 5
Amelis Copeland 3
Florence Copeland 1

Jeeberella

Jeeberella Report 10 Jan 2009 21:59

Looks like I'm not getting any further help from my nana due to family issues, so looks like Im on my own!

There is some hope tho, my nana's her brother and his wife. Going to arrange to go and see them with my dad at some point, so not all hope is lost.

And Claire has very kindly found me amelia, her parents and 2 siblings on the 1901 census :D

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 10 Jan 2009 21:59

Marriages Jun 1895
Cooper Eliza Stoke T. 6b 292
Copeland Stephen Stoke T. 6b 292
Holland Sarah Ellen Stoke T. 6b 292
Slater George Henry Stoke T. 6b 292

Jeeberella

Jeeberella Report 10 Jan 2009 22:06

wow ozi

thanks for that again

you're being very helpful it's very much appreciated

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 10 Jan 2009 22:07

At 66 Camp Road:
1901 England Census
Name: John Henry Copeland
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Smallthorne, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Smallthorne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Smallthorne
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:
Occupation: Stone Quarry miner
Condition as to marriage: widowed

Registration district: Leek
Sub registration district: Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 153
Household Members:
Name Age
John Henry Copeland 49
Francis Copeland 23 - daughter; Potter's transferer
Hannah Copeland 18 - feebleminded 4 years
Sarah J Copeland 13 - Potter's transferer
John H Copeland 12 - School
Thomas Copeland 8 - School

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 10 Jan 2009 22:09

1891 England Census
Name: Stephen Copeland
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John H
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Smallthorne, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Norton in The Moors
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Smallthorne
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: 32 Camp Rd
Occupation: coal miner
Condition as to marriage: single

Registration district: Leek
Sub registration district: Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John H Copeland 40 - coal miner; Mow Cop, Chester!!!!
Hannah Copeland 38 - Burslem
Stephen Copeland 18
Frances Copeland 13 - dressmaker's apprentice
Ada Copeland 10 - scholar
Hannah Copeland 8 - scholar
John H Copeland 2

Jeeberella

Jeeberella Report 10 Jan 2009 22:11

oh ozi thats amazing thank you so much

it really is appreciated, got quite down earlier when it became apparent my nana wasn't going to help me further

thanks again

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 10 Jan 2009 22:15

1881 England Census
Name: John H. Copeland
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Mow Cop, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Smallthorne
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: 4 Back St (B)
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Leek
Sub registration district: Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John H. Copeland 29
Hannah Copeland 26
Stephen Copeland 8
Frances Copeland 3
Edna Copeland 5 mo
John Perry 24 - lodger

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 10 Jan 2009 22:17

Marriages Mar 1871
Copeland John Henry Wolstanton 6b 113
Hackney Hannah Wolstanton 6b 113
Higginson Joseph Wolstanton 6b 113
Hood Ellen Wolstanton 6b 113

Remember you have to prove this info with certificates.

Do you want me to keep following John H?

Ozi.

Jeeberella

Jeeberella Report 10 Jan 2009 22:21

ozi my dear it's entirely up to you

thanks so much though, frantically puttin it in ym tree now lol

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 10 Jan 2009 22:37

1861 England Census
Name: John H Copeland
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Stephen
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Odd Road, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Norton
Ecclesiastical parish: Smallthorne St Saviour
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: Find Green
Occupation:

Registration district: Leek
Sub registration district: Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 223
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Copeland 36 - coal miner; Biddulph
Ann Copeland 34 - Biddulph
Joseph W Copeland 15 - coal miner; Biddulph
George Copeland 12 - coal miner [poor mite]; Biddulph
John H Copeland 9 - Odd Road, Cheshire
Enos Copeland 7 - Odd Road, CheshireHannah Copeland 6
Stephen Copeland 2 - Norton, Cheshire
Levi Copeland 1 - Norton, Cheshire


John H is not with family.
1871 England Census
Name: Stephen Copland
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Biddulph, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Norton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Smallthorne
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: Leek Rd
Occupation: coal miner

Registration district: Leek
Sub registration district: Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 152
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Copland 46
Ann Copland 44
George Copland 22
Eneas Copland 17
Hannah Copland 16
Stephen Copland 12
Levi Copland 11
Rubin Copland 9
Arnest Copland 8
Robert Copland 6
Sarah Copland 4
Franck Copland 1 [Francis on image]

Births ar as before except from Stephen jnr to Francis born Smallthorne.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 10 Jan 2009 22:41

Because he's visiting rellies with his new wife.

1871 England Census
Name: John Henry Copeland
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Cousin
Gender: Male
Where born: Mowcop, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Burslem
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Burslem
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: 46 Enoch St
Occupation: coal miner
Condition as to marriage: married

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Burslem
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 79
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Windsor 32
Eliza Windsor 34
Ann Eliza Windsor 6
John Henry Copeland 20
Hannah Copeland 20 - potter's transferer; Burslem

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 10 Jan 2009 22:49

1851 England Census
Name: Stephan Copeland
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Biddulph, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Odd Rode
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address: Mount Pleasant Mow
Occupation: coal miner
Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Congleton
Sub registration district: Sandbach
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephan Copeland 26
Ann Copeland 24 - coal miner; Biddulph
Joseph Copeland 5 - scholar
George Copeland 2 - at home

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 10 Jan 2009 23:00

This looks like relatives, father & brother?:
1841 England Census
Name: Thomas Copland
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Biddulph
Hundred: North Pirehill
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: Gillowheath
Occupation: independent

Registration district: Congleton
Sub registration district: Congleton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Levi Copland 25 - coal miner.
Martha Copland 25
Hannah Copland 2
Henry Copland 1
Thomas Copland 60


Results for:
Father: Thomas Copeland, Mother: Hannah
Batch Number: P020901
1. LEVI COPLAND - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 13 OCT 1816 Biddulph, Stafford, England
2. STEPHEN COPLAND - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 15 AUG 1824 Biddulph, Stafford, England

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 10 Jan 2009 23:10

Well that should do you for a while.

I've got to go now.

Ozi.

Jeeberella

Jeeberella Report 10 Jan 2009 23:12

thanks ozi that's amazing that you've been able to find that for me, plenty for me to go at!

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 10 Jan 2009 23:21

FOUND THESE BIRTHS

ELLEN WAKELIN
JUN Q 1928
STOKE T
VOL: 6B
PG: 184
MMN: COPELAND

MARY WAKELIN
MAR Q 1931
STOKE T
VOL: 6B
PG: 161
MMN: COPELAND

CASSANDRA

Jeeberella

Jeeberella Report 10 Jan 2009 23:39

Wow thanks cassandra

much appreciated, those are 2 of my nana's sisters

so impressed with all the info ive got