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Thankyou Catherine for making me really enjoy this one.....am so pleased for you xxx and your Dad. Hope it doesn't progress too quickly xxx

Lesley

Here are some siblings:

Births Jun 1917
Bond Walter E Reynoldson Sunderland 10a 1202

Births Mar 1919
Bond Walter E Reynoldson Sunderland 10a 1061

Births Jun 1920
BOND Violet Reynoldson Sunderland 10a 1908

Births Dec 1922
Bond Hilda M Reynoldson Sunderland 10a 1166

Births Sep 1928
Bond Ethel Reynoldson Doncaster 9c 1281

Rose

oooh oooh

Have just read Portland Rose's ...so it turns out she was Walter Bonds child and not Josephs...ah ha

Lesley

SHE my grandmother WAS MARRIED BEFORE!! to a Walter BOND...well this is a journey of discovery...and yes I am definately intrigued in 1916 in Sunderland...well that begs the question of mum...will need to look into this further although very few of our keegan line left to try to find out...if they would even know
stunned
cahy

And, whats more important is that your Mother had 3 sisters and 2 brothers (although with both named walter the first one probably died)

You so need to keep us posted on this Cathy.xx

Lesley

You might find the marriage was in 1948 because they had to wait for Walter to die. Divorce was pretty expensive.

Rose

There could be more siblings because FreeBMD isn't complete:

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/progressB.shtml

Rose

I know this is one year out but you can never trust the birth dates but here is a Walter who died in Doncaster.

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Walter Ernest Bond
Name: Walter Ernest Bond
Birth Date: 1 Dec 1918
Death Registration Month/Year: Jul 1992
Age at death (estimated): 73
Registration district: Doncaster
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire, Yorkshire
Volume: 3
Page: 379

Lesley

Rose and Lesley
thankyou for all this help,and so much to take in.
I will be back in touch tomorrow when I find out any more on the circumstances of mums birth etc. I just looked at her photo and grandads (joseph Keegan ) and they are the absolute spit of each other.
cathy

Was Joseph Irish by any chance? The last 3 names are common Irish names so Joseph could be the father. The earlier children could be Walters. The girl's names are more fashionable names for that era - Hilda, Violet, Ethel.

Josephine was probably named after her father.

Rose

If they are the spit of each other then you have to entertain the fact that Lily was having an affair with Joseph and Josephine was the result!!!

I'm so keeping in touch with this one.....

Lesley

Hi Rose yes he was irish catholic !!! so your reasoning seems sound to me, and although it answers some questions it`s opened up a whole lot more.........!!!!
and yes lesley you have to be right on this one, and I will most definately keep you both updated...ooh.. just thought about dad!
watch this space.
cathy

Cathy

Can I say one more thing I've noticed.

For some reason she had Ethel born 1928 in ..............Doncaster..........and then Josephine was born 1930 in Sunderland!!!!!

So Lily was in Doncaster round about the time Josephine was conceived lol......

Bet your glad you asked!!!

Lesley

Lesley this gets more intriguing !
I was told grandad did `the walk` of many other young men from the durham coalfields to south yourkshire where new pits were opening at a time when there was very little work in durham...and he came with his brother and a cousin. This must have been when he and Nan `got together` so to speak.
All of them settled in the yorkshire areas of the mines but there was obviously more to the story....
yes I am glad I asked and have just ordered the birth certificates..I just need to see it!! and have a record
thanks cathy

Here's another sibling:

Births Dec 1925
Bond Lilian K Reynoldson Sunderland 10a 1118

Rose

Hi Rose
thankyou for the birth ref. for lilian !!
I am going to see the only living relative we have now from grandads family ( and incidentally our line of the Keegans) so maybe there will be some information she can/will share with me.
I will be back in touch as soon as I get more info.
thankyou once again
cathy

Hi Lesley and Rose !!
I`m back !
Well I have Mam`s bith cert. now and it is so strange to see...the father is recorded as Walter Bond !!!!!!!!! so as you can imagine I have tried to see this from every angle, but really it`s as simple as the times were back then,as far as I can see.

Being pregnant be another man, Nan(Lily ) would have been thrown out or have left of her own accord....even though she would have had to leave her children behind,and the youngest was only 2yrs old. and as she would have nowhere to go,she must have gone back to her family in Sunderland....where she gave birth to Mam.She obviously put Walters name on the cert. for reasons of `respectability` or perhaps her family did not know the full story and she did it for their sake?

Whatever the ins and outs she and Joseph Keegan would have been shunned by both families up in the north east, and within the mining community where they then lived ie Doncaster,Yorks.....bearing in mind Walter Bond was also a miner in this same area by now....mining communities were tight and thay would not have been accepted readily nor would they have had a very easy time of it from others in the community!

Now on to Walter Bond (jnr)the death record you found for me !.......This man I met!! and he was the delivery driver of a bread van that used to come to our local shop just at the same time as we( my brothers and sisters and I ) were waiting at the bus stop opposit to go to school each day. We were the envy of all the other children because he used to have cakes etc for us each day and we got to choose what we wanted from the trays in the delivery van....it was wonderful...and we were told he was uncle walter, but as we had an uncle eric who we knew wasn`t our uncle but a very good friend of mam and dad, so we thought the same thing about Walter !!!

My eldest sister and I were really sad to know this was him because after the revelations last week we thought we might be able to see him again. However I am going to try to follow up on the Bonds., although I will not be including any of this in Dads book, there is no purpose in doing so...because of his alzeihmers .

It is all going on the full history though. It`s important to know how life was for our ancestors,and yes even their skeletons!!

I feel like I`ve been on a rollercoaster all week, and my sister and I have read through all the records and notes and looked at so many photos it`s been crazy!! but very, very interesting.

Thankyou both very much for all you found and all the help and insights.....you are great !!
god bless, cathy x

Hi Cathy,

Thanks for the update. Sounds like your father must have known about Walter Bond. You now have the task of tracking down all the Bonds.

There are 2 people on this site who have Walter born 1918 on this site. Have you thought about contacting them?

Rose

Hi Rose
I will chase up those 2 with walter in their trees,thankyou again, you were such a great help.
cathy

Im absolutely made up for you Catherine - i hope it turns out Wonderful.

Lesley