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Lisa
You have been so helpful in my search I cannot thank you enough.
I have decided I really need to concentrate on John 1809 and trying to find a marriage, immigration or death for him - this would help me to confirm some of the previous information found by you and others .

So what I am looking for is any records of John b1809 in Scotland
Parents Malcolm McFiggins and Elizabeth Moodie.

Sorry if I keep repeating myself - but it actually helps me to keep writing it down. All this is quite exhausting but fun!!

Many thanks again
JANE

I know you are looking for John (1809), but in case this helps in the future:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nymonnws/1938/JUN.html
Rochester, Monroe, NY
Democrat & Chronicle
Sat June 18, 1938

DEATHS
"McFIGGIN - Robert, of 76 Bronson Ave., passed away in this city, Thursday, June 16, 1938. He leaves his wife, Dorothy SC_UG, one son Robert; three daughters, the Misses Dorothy, Louise, Maryanne McFIGGIN; two brothers, John and Charles; two sisters, Miss Mable McFIGGIN and Mrs. Clara FU_NIA.
-Funeral service Monday afternoon at 2 o'clock from the funeral home of D. F. EMMA, 54 Clifton. The Rev. Frederick M. WINNE officiating. Interment in Mt. Hope Cemetery."

This may have been mentioned already:
BAIRD, Elizabeth, f, February 6, 1927, 87 years, Ontario, cause - myocarditis, burial - Beechwood Cem., d/o John McFiggins & Ellen Fairburn, both born Scotland, infm - Agnes McDonald Baird, daughter, Ottawa (Carleton Co) 009570-27
I didn't see Marynn on the site:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~onvsr/

Sorry if this was mentioned, also:
http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/search.php

You could order records from this site:
http://www.health.state.ny.us/vital_records/
There are some U.S. sites that are not a part of the government; you should make sure this is really a "state" site before ordering (I'm not taking the time to make sure it is).

After all of the wonderful lookups last night, I'm now lost. (Not something new for me.) Do you need any other lookups?

Hi there, thanks for working so hard on my behalf
I have Malcolm b1821and John b1809 and they were brothers.

I am trying to find out more about John (1809) and trying to make a connection with the rest of the information.

Having got all the fab info on various Johns and Malcolm it would be good to piece it all together.

Do you think you could find a death for Maryann McFiggins born 1838 . I think she must have died in Canada.
Many thanks
Jane

Here's your John born 1889. I don't know how easy it would be to order a death certificate?


Social Security Death Index
about John McFiggins
Name: John McFiggins
SSN: 079-12-7801
Last Residence: 14613 Rochester, Monroe, New York, United States of America
Born: 2 Sep 1889
Died: Jan 1972
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before

Wow you have been busy Margaret! It does seem to suggest that Malcolm, Fred's father, and John D, who took him in, were brothers.

Liz

Another curious one in the Rochester newspaper.
A certain Robert McFiggins, a plasterer fell to his death in 1890 while working on St. Michael's Church. He was 81 years old and leaves a wife and 5 children, the oldest being 11!

From the Rochester Democrat & Chronicle, Thursday, October 11, 1928.

Thomas McFiggins died Tuesday in Cobourg, Canada. He leaves two sisters, Mrs. Lena Williamson and Mrs. Charlotte Coulson, and a nephew Fred McFiggins of this city.

This from the 1871 census in Ontario:

MCFIGGIN,
Stray: Individual bears a different surname than the head of the familySex: MaleAge: 50Place of Birth: SCOTLANDReligion: Canada Presbyterian/C. Presb. Origin: SCOTCHOccupation: PLASTERERDistrict: NORTHUMBERLAND WEST (054) Sub-district: Haldimand (C) Division: 3Page: 38Microfilm reel number: C-9984Reference

Jane, if you can access that site for Northern New York newspapers that I posted and type in the name McFiggin, the 9th article that comes up, dated 1894 is a long article about the death of 15 year old George McFiggin who was living in Rochester with his brother Fred. Their father, Malcolm McFiggin, a plaster had lived with them but at the time he was in Coburn, Canada. The boy's uncle John D. McFiggin of 4 Sterling St. had taken charge of the body until his father arrived.
The article is very lengthy, I hope you can access it.

Malcolm and first wife :
1881 Canadian census:

Census Place: Colborne, Northumberland East, Ontario, Canada
Source: FHL Film 1375875 NAC C-13239 Dist 123 SubDist B Page 16 Family 82
Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace
Malcolm MCFIGGIN M M 57 Scottish Scotland
Occ: Plasterer Religion: C. Presbyterian
Maryann MCFIGGIN F M 42 Scottish Scotland
Religion: C. Presbyterian
Arthur J MCFIGGIN M 6 Scottish O
Religion: C. Presbyterian
Elizabeth I MCFIGGIN F 2 Scottish O
Religion: C. Presbyterian

Did you already have these?

007055 - 74 Malcolm McFIGGIN, 50, plasterer, Scotland, Colborne, s/o Malcolm McFIGGIN & Elizabeth MOODIE, married Mary Ann SKINNER, 36, Aberdeenshire Scotland, Haldimand, d/o James SKINNER & Isabella Kennedy, witn. George SKINNER & Mary MULHOLLAND of Haldimand, Jan. 14 1874, at Haldimand

008546-89 (Northumberland Co) Malcomb McFIGGIN, 66, plasterer, widower, Scotland, Colborne, s/o Malcomb McFIGGIN & Elizabeth MOODY, married Catherine THOMPSON, 55, widow, Scotland, Coldsprings, d/o George KENNEDY & Mary MORRISON, witn James THOMPSON of Coldsprings & Mrs. ROSS of Harwood, 24 Oct 1889 at the Manse, Bethesda North

Off to bed now ladies - nighty nighty
Thanks Jane

Sorry, Jane, I made a typo on that "In Memorium" that I posted, The year of death was 1917 not 1916. I have gone back and corrected it.
It was from this site which is Northern New York newspapers. I'm looking for the death in 1917 but can't see it.

http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html

Thanks for the info T
Much appreicated
Jane

Mt Hope Cemetery, Rochester, NY

MCFIGGINS, Charlotte Fraser 1857-1944
MCFIGGINS, John D. 14 Feb 1917, Husband

These are the only McFiggins buried in Mt Hope as far as I know..

Thanks for that Margaret- can I gain anymore info from this - DOB maybe
Jane

Liz
I have been sitting here trying to work all this out. I now think that John isn't Malcolm and Elizabeth son - as you say sums don't work out. He must be from the next generation down and possibly on another branch of tree.

Liz I have just found a fundamental error in the tree I recieved from my distance relative in America - she has John D Mcfiggins list in her 3rd and 4th generation- obvoiusly it should be in the 4th. Seems like I or we have been on a wild goose chase. I am thinking maybe Fred is a son and not a nephew but not sure.
Thanking you again for all your efforts on my behalf you information has been invaluable
Jane
This really is testing the old grey matter
Jane

I'm back for a moment because I've just thought of something pretty obvious. If Malcolm and Elizabeth were married in 1800, surely they wouldn't have had a son born in 1850. A grandson perhaps but not a son.

Liz

This "In Memorium" in the Rochester New York Democrat and Chronicle, Thursday, Feb. 18, 1918:

MCFIGGINS:
In loving memory of John D. McFiggins who passed away on the 14th. day of February, 1917.