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alviegal

alviegal Report 16 Feb 2009 22:46

Hi Jane. This Malcolm must be the brother of the original John b 1850 that we started looking for. They have the same parents but I can find no census records for him at all. And yes, he does appear to have married twice , both times to ladies born in Scotland.


I'm afraid I must disappear now...it's getting late over here but will see tomorrow if you other ladies have found anothing else. Nighty night!

Liz

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 16 Feb 2009 22:36

Ladies
Do I read this right that Malcolm had 2 wives and that both were Scottish but they married in Canada - please correct me if I am wrong.
J

Here is more info I have
Malcolm Mcfiggins 1778-1856 married Elizabeth Moodie 1777-1852
They have 8 children all born in Scotland
Elizabeth 1802-1866
Janet 1803-1869
Adam 1805-1869
John 1809
Christina 1811
Alison 1813-1878
Margaret 1816-1901
Malcolm 1821

As you can see Malcolm ties in nicely but John's DOB is way out
There must be another explanation for this- maybe another leg of the family-cousin??
Although your info did say there was a John - could it have been an Adam John born 1805 - just grasping at straws now and making it up but things do get mistranscribed don't
j

alviegal

alviegal Report 16 Feb 2009 22:27

Here's another one for Malcolm. He's now a widower.



Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924
about Malcolm McFiggins
Name: Malcolm McFiggins
Birth Place: Scotland
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Father Name: Malcohm McFiggins
Mother Name: Elizabeth Moody
Spouse Name: Catharine Thompson
Spouse's Age: 55
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Spouse Birth Place: Scotland
Spouse Father Name: George Kennedy
Spouse Mother Name: Mary Morrison
Marriage Date: 24 Oct 1889
Marriage Place: Northumberland
Marriage County: Northumberland
Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_65


and his death. He's a gentleman who died of heart failure 5 days.



Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1934
about Malcolm McFiggins
Name: Malcolm McFiggins
Death Date: 16 Jan 1898
Death Location: Northumberland and Durham
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Birth Location: Scotland

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 16 Feb 2009 22:24

I'm popping in and out (trying to get some chores done before hubby comes home)...

what do you know for sure

and what have others told you.

We can start looking at the things you are positive about.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Feb 2009 22:23

oops

I hadn't seent hat Lisa had already found this.


I was looking to see if I could find them on the 1880 Census on familysearch, and didn't return here before going onto ancestry!

There was incidentally nothing for John McFiggins (soundex on) on the 1880 USA, nor in Canada or the UK




sylvia

alviegal

alviegal Report 16 Feb 2009 22:22

Have you seen this before? I know it's not exactly what you're looking for but....



Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924
about Malcolm McFiggin
Name: Malcolm McFiggin
Birth Place: Fife Scotland
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Father Name: Malcolm McFiggin
Mother Name: Elizth Moodie
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Skinner
Spouse's Age: 36
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Spouse Birth Place: Aberdeenshire Scotland
Spouse Father Name: James Skinner
Spouse Mother Name: Isabella Kennedy
Marriage Date: 14 Jan 1874
Marriage Place: Northumberland and Durham
Marriage County: Northumberland and Durham
Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_15

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He was a plasterer living in Colbourne?

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 16 Feb 2009 22:20

Hi Ladies,
Let's put our heads together on this one - the said John born 1889 can't really be confirmed as being Malcolm and Elizabeth' son as I see it.
They were born, lived and died in Scotland and the info given said John was born in Soctland or Canada and that he immigrated in 1860. I am really confused - surely there must be another John somewhere - it doesn't all tie up!!
Jane

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Feb 2009 22:20

This is on ancestry, public famiyl trees


Could it add to the mix?????


: (Name Unknown)

Bristol Family Tree
Public Member Tree
1 attached record, 1 source

John D McFiggins
Birth: 9/2/1889 (9 Feb 1889) - Canada
Death: 1/1972 (Jan 1972)
Spouse: Elizabeth M Teeter
F: (Name Unknown)
M: Charlotte




sylvia

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 16 Feb 2009 22:16

I have to step away for a bit. I will return soon. Sorry.

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 16 Feb 2009 22:12

There are a couple of people on Ancestry who have McFiggins:
Name: Donald McFiggins
Birth: 1877 - Canada
Cannot access this record

Bristol Family Tree
Public Member Tree

1 attached record, 1 source

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Name: John D McFiggins
Birth: 9/2/1889 (9 Feb 1889) - Canada
Death: 1/1972 (Jan 1972)

John D McFiggins Elizabeth M Teeter unknown Charlotte
Name: John D McFiggins
Birth: 9/2/1889 (9 Feb 1889) - Canada
Death: 1/1972 (Jan 1972)
Parents: Charlotte
Spouse: Elizabeth M Teeter
They don't have any further information about John's parents.

Whew, glad you're still here, Alviegal. I had a misunderstanding with a friend on the internet when I first bought my computer. Ever since, I'm paranoid that I might say the wrong thing. Hence, all of the :) in my posts. Besides, you're a great help living in Scotland. :)))

alviegal

alviegal Report 16 Feb 2009 22:11

Still here Lisa, you haven't scared me off. I'm in Scotland so I may be able to find something out on this side.

Liz

alviegal

alviegal Report 16 Feb 2009 22:09

This is the marriage of your two Scottish people I know you must have this but it just shows the difference in spelling of the surname.




ELIZABETH MOODIE Pedigree
Female Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: MALCOM MACFEGGAN Family
Marriage:
19 DEC 1800 Kinghorn, Fife, Scotland



ELIS. MOODIE Pedigree
Female Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: MALCOLM MCFIGAN Family
Marriage:
06 DEC 1800 Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 16 Feb 2009 22:07

Before I lose this:

1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Cheulatte McFiggins
Home in 1930: Rochester, Monroe, New York
Age: 74
Birth Year: abt 1856
Birthplace: Canada
Relation to Head of House: Head
Age at first marriage: 25
Cheulatte McFiggins 74
Fred McFiggins 59, Nephew, Single, Factory Worker, Stove Factory

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 16 Feb 2009 22:05

We can keep looking around, but until we can find a connection, I'm not too sure this is the correct family.

Did someone say John married someone named Charlotte in 1885? Or, did you get that from the census record?

If you were told they married, then this could very well be the correct family.

Before I continue with American information, let me see if I can find John in Canada.

I hope I didn't scare Alviegal off. Sometimes, three heads are better than two. :( (Actually, most times, if I'm involved. )
:)

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 16 Feb 2009 22:03

Thank you both so much for searching on my behalf - just need to clear up when and where John emigrated .
The info you have given suggests that John was born in Canada but that doesn't tie up - so I have a bit more sorting to do!!
Jane

alviegal

alviegal Report 16 Feb 2009 21:57


1930 United States Federal Census
about Fred McFiggins
Name: Fred McFiggins
Home in 1930: Rochester, Monroe, New York
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation to Head of House: Nephew
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Cheulatte McFiggins 74
Fred McFiggins 59

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1920 United States Federal Census
about Charlotte E McFiggins
Name: Charlotte E McFiggins
[Charlotte E. McFiggins]
Home in 1920: Rochester Ward 10, Monroe, New York
Age: 60 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Birthplace: Canada
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Marital Status: Widow
Race: White
Sex: Female
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1865
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 476
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charlotte E McFiggins 60
Frederick F McFiggins 48

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Just the last 2 census records.


Liz

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 16 Feb 2009 21:57

1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Charlotte E McFiggins
Home in 1920: Rochester Ward 10, Monroe, New York
Age: 60 years
Birth Year: abt 1860
Birthplace: Canada
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Marital Status: Widow
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1865
Charlotte E McFiggins 60
Frederick F McFiggins 48, Nephew, Single, Moulder, Stove? Foundry
25 Sterling Avenue
Listed right below them:
------------ John D. (so I'm assuming his name was also McFiggins; could his name have been John Donald?); relationship is Head, but was originally Nephew and crossed out; born in Canada as were parents; Labourer, Foundry
Elizabeth M, wife, age 23, born New York, father born New York, mother born England
Harold, Son, 1 2/12, born New York, father born Canada?, mother born New York
25 Sterling Street

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 16 Feb 2009 21:53

Hi Lisa,
I noticed this too, My John's parents were Malcolm Mcfiggins and
Elizabeth Moodie both born and died in Scotland. I understood from another source that their son 'the said John' Mcfiggins born May 1850 in Scotland and died in Feb 1917 In New York.
Not sure what other info I need to relate these things together. Maybe a marriage certifitcate.
I believe John and Charlotte were married in 1885 but I can't find a marriage in Scotland and because she was Canadian i right or wrongly assumed that they married overseas!!!
Jane

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 16 Feb 2009 21:44

Jane, are you sure "your" John married someone named Charlotte? You mentioned your John was born in Scotland. So far, this John appears to have been born in Canada.

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 16 Feb 2009 21:42

Thanks very much Alviegal - really appriecate your help
Jane