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Richard's death?


Deaths Jun 1890 (>99%)

Kettlewell Richard 72 Glanford B. 7a 414



sylvia

EvieBeavie and Sylvia(in Canada)
I put up a thread on Records Board on How to search 19 Century Newspapers on Line (its free) Sylvia you might want to get in touch with your local Library and see if they subscribe to them. EvieBeavie I do not know where you are but you can access these records from home if you have a library card anywhere in the U.K
I will nudge my thread up

just nudged and see You have allready seen it Sylvia

oooo you have been busy while I've been snoozing, that certainly accounts for no marriage! well done.

WOW,
I really wasn't expecting such a brilliant response from you all so quickly.
Will take me a while to sort out the bits I know from the info you have so kindly submitted.
I was starting to think they must never have married and she just took his name and you have further confirmed this for me.
Can't wait to put all your info together when i have a little more time.
Thanks Again

Tracey

you're very welcome

I enjoyed myself last night unravelling the story.

The next step is to try to work out what happened to all the children ....... and to see if we can find Sarah on the 1871 ....... she has to be somewhere!



sylvia

And you're welcome from me! Had you never known about Sarah Naomi and the other family?? Look at all the cousins you have to find. ;)

Hiya evie~~~~

I am a novice at this but have gathered quite a few bits and pieces and have inherited some bits of research from a family member. Some of this inherited info i can't seem to verify online. Probably just looking in the wrong place.
You mention about Sarah Naomi Ruth being hard to find in 1871 while Richard was staying at the pub. Well I have a reference number RG10 4536 40 41. I don't know where this number refers to so that I can view it but supposedly it shows sarah staying with her sister in law Hannah Leather or Leasher.
Hannah Leather, head, married, age 55.
Sarah Naomi R Kettlewell, visitor, sister in law, married, age 56.
Mary Kettlewell, visitor, neice, age 16.
Hannah Kettlewell, visitor, neice, age 16.
Amelia Ashaley, visitors servant, age 14.

Can you tell me what the number refers to so that I may be able to view the details as i don't seem to be having much luck at inputing the names, it just comes up with no match.

Yeesh, no wonder.

You're using Ancestry?

On the search page for the 1871 census, down at the bottom, you see

RG10/

followed by three boxes.

For Piece, enter 4536

For Folio, enter 40

For Page #, enter 41

Or you can just search for the name

Sarah Naomi R Blotthwell

!!

Hannah Leather 55
Sarah Naomi R Blotthwell 56
Mary Blotthwell 19
Hannah Blotthwell 16
Amelia A Caling 14

And just for future ref -- this is info that you had but did not offer up at the beginning, and that would have saved us all some time indeed. You *did* know about the previous marriage!

We're very clever, but there isn't a lot of point in "discovering" things that people already know.

Now, if you are an Ancestry subscriber, you need to start adding notes to the names in the censuses.

Starting with Sarah in 1871, you can add two corrections.

First, to give her full birth name. Refer to the IGI in your notes, and say what your relationship is (i.e. to her husband).

Second, to correct the spelling of Kettlewell. Refer to the 41, 51 and 61 censuses, and give the date of her death under that name.

That means that anyone looking for her in future will be able to find her where we didn't (although I'd swear I tried searching for Sarah Naomi as given names, just in case!). I've had distant cousins with fascinating stories contact me that way.

To make corrections, look on the left of the screen when you are viewing her individual record. You'll see the link "Comments and Corrections". Click on it, and then on "Add an Alternate Name".

Be sure to call Greenwood a "birth surname", or it will get applied to her children too. And be careful when you enter the names. Too many people do things like put their own name instead of the person's name. ;)

gawd!!!



that definitely needs a name change submitting!!


Tracey ..... you really have to thank whoever sent you the information for that one!!!




sylvia

other inherited info:-
1901 George Henry (my grandad) and Joseph Kettlewell were living with there sister Matilda Jackson/Kettlewell and her family George Bessindale, head age 54 and daughter Martha A, age 4. Address 53 Wilson Gardens, Rotherham, Yorkshire.
Got Matilda and Georges marriage details, mar qtr 1890 Thorne. She is using the Kettlewell name at time of marriage not sure when she stopped being Jackson.

I also thought that the death of Richard Kettlewell at Glanford Brigg in 1890 must be my Richard, so its nice to hear that you think the same. At least I know I can get some things right. Also been in touch with a relative of Marthas last husband who she married in Dec 1892 Doncaster. He was called John Smith Brooks from Barnsley. No idea when she died though.

I'm using genes reunited not ancestry so do your instructions still stand for this site too?

Really need to go to bed now but will check in tomorrow and will try to give more precise information details.
Good Night
Tracey

Tracey

as I understand it, GR transfers you to another site and doesn't carry the records itself, so is it referring you to ancestry?

I only have standard membership on here, so I can't check


but look to the left side of the transcript record, and if you can see a box headed Page Tools, with instructions in it, including Comments & Corrections ................. then that is ancestry


Click on Comments & Corrections, and follow instructions.


If not, come back and tell us and someone will do it for you.



sylvia

So Sylvia, you do it. I'm dead beat.

Tracey, send Sylvia your email address and she can include it in the correction notes at Ancestry so anyone who reads it can contact you.

BUT first go to

www.gmail.com

and get an account there to use for the purpose. To protect your identity, call your account something like

[email protected]

That way you aren't putting your identity out on the net forever (and risking spam to your real email account).

hmmph!

never heard you say that before!

Sylvia,
Taken your advice and set up a different email account. Details of which I have sent in a message to you, seperately.

Genes Reunited only let you search with name, birth year and place. No facility to search using the reference number which is so annoying so still can't view this document myself.
They may redirect to another site, doesn't say who, it still has all there heading etc and no facilities to submit changes or anything. Just shows a copy of the page with an option to print or save image to disc. Starting to think i may have subscribed to the least helpful site. Will give ancestry a go when this subsciption ends.
If you could submit the correct names for me that would be great asuming that you are certain that this is correct info as I personally havn't seen it.

I have been writing in my special family history book all the info you have kindly found. Got very few blanks now for Richard and Martha.

1901 census shows Martha R married to john smith brooks, a corn miller from Barnsley, Yorkshire. They are living in Crabbie Lane, Belton. Both age 60.

I've found their marriage on freeBMD, Martha Kettlewell to John Smith Brooks, Dec 1892, Doncaster vol 9c page 1242.

Possible death of Martha Brooks, again on freeBMD, Dec 1918, Rotherham, vol9c pg916, age82.

Can't find anything at all on Marthas birth/christening.

Think I might give a go at finding info on my grandads siblings.
1901 Census:- shows George Henry Kettlewell (My grandad) and brother Joseph Kettlewell boarding with sister Matilda now called Bassindale. living in Rotherham Yorkshire.