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Constance May Warnham b.1893 no birth certificate

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Johnnyblueeyes

Johnnyblueeyes Report 2 May 2009 08:32

Looking for Birth information on Constance May Warnham.My grandmother
Born 1893 in Holborn ,details from death certificate.Marriage was on 5.9.1912 to Walter Sidney Cato.No fathers name on marriage certificate.Living with Walter Bridgman and family in the 1901 and 1911 census she was listed as their niece.Walter's
wife was Annie nee Mason.Who was Constance May Warnham's mother and father.
Help Please.

June

June Report 2 May 2009 08:42

looks like she was mistranscribed


Name: Constance May Worman
Year of Registration: 1895
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Edmonton
County: Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 302 (click to see others on page)



June x

Johnnyblueeyes

Johnnyblueeyes Report 2 May 2009 08:55

Thanks June,
She is listed as being born in Holborn London on her death certificate.
She was also living in London in the 1901/1911 census.
However her surname may have been mistranscribed.
Thanks June.

Johnnyblueeyes

Johnnyblueeyes Report 4 May 2009 22:52

nudge

Johnnyblueeyes

Johnnyblueeyes Report 4 May 2009 23:08

It's not Constance May Worman,
she is listed living with her family in the 1901 census.In Hornsey.
john

Choccy

Choccy Report 4 May 2009 23:16

Have you tried this one -

Births Jun 1895 (>99%)
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Worman Constance May Edmonton 3a 302

Johnnyblueeyes

Johnnyblueeyes Report 4 May 2009 23:19

Thanks Wilma,
That's the same one that I mentioned in my previous message.
Thanks John.

Johnnyblueeyes

Johnnyblueeyes Report 4 May 2009 23:38

Good night all i'm of to my bed.
john.

Netty

Netty Report 4 May 2009 23:49

Hi, i've searched the images quarter by quarter 1893 and the first quarter 1894, the printing is very bad, the ink is so heavy on some pages that it's impossible to read some entries. there's a very good chance that the birth has been mistranscribed. Forename & Surname.

June

June Report 5 May 2009 11:07

lets track them back

1901

Name: Walter Bridgman
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras, London, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew Holborn Above The Bars and St George The Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St George the Martyr
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: Holborn
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 485
Household Members: Name Age
Walter Bridgman 38
Annie Bridgman 34
Charles W Bridgman 9
Florence J Bridgman 4
Jane Kitcheny 58
Constance M Warnham 8






1891
Name: Walter Bridgman
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Bloomsbury, London, England

Civil Parish: Clerkenwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillips
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: Amwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Walter Bridgman 28
Annie Bridgman 25
Annie J Bridgman 6





1881

Name: Walter Bridgman
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Sophia
Gender: Male
Where born: Bloomsbury, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 7 Wakefield St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Printing Machine Hand

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Grays Inn Lane
ED, institution, or vessel: 10a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sophia Bridgman 57
George Bridgman 28
Walter Bridgman 18
William Bridgman 16
Ester Bridgman 14






1871

Name: Alter Bridgeman
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Sophia
Gender: Male
Where born: Bloomsbury, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St George Bloomsbury
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St George Bloomsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 268
Household Members: Name Age
George Bridgeman 47
Sophia Bridgeman 47
George Bridgeman 17
Eliza Bridgeman 14
Henry Bridgeman 12
Louisa Bridgeman 10
Alter Bridgeman 8 walter
James Bridgeman 6
Esther Bridgeman 4





now Annie



June x

Johnnyblueeyes

Johnnyblueeyes Report 5 May 2009 11:22

Thanks for looking Netty.
John.

Johnnyblueeyes

Johnnyblueeyes Report 5 May 2009 11:27

Thanks June ,for the great effort you made in helping me in my quest.
What can I say. Thanks,Thanks,Thanks,Thanks,Thanks.
John.

Johnnyblueeyes

Johnnyblueeyes Report 14 May 2009 14:19

STILL LOOKING

Choccy

Choccy Report 14 May 2009 15:29

Looking at the 1901 census again, do you think Constance could have been a niece of the boarder 'Jane Kitcheny' and not the Bridgmans, as she appears under the name of the boarder?

I found this - something to think about maybe -

Births Jun 1893 (>99%)
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Kitchener Constance May Islington 1b 261


sablon

sablon Report 14 May 2009 15:39

FOR REF

Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)
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CATO Walter S Farnham Pancras 1b 234

Warnham Constance M Cato Pancras 1b 234


The district Pancras is an alternative name for St Pancras and it spans the boundaries of the counties of Greater London and London;

Gritty

Gritty Report 14 May 2009 15:49

What a toughie!!
Worth bearing in mind Choccy's suggestion.
I too have searched 1893 index for likely births and the first and last qtr are very hard to read.

Only maybe's were:
Constance Warren (jan-Mar 1893) Hackney 1b 619
Constance May Warner (Jul- Sept) Tendring 1a 572

Cup of tea before the seach resumes!

sablon

sablon Report 14 May 2009 16:12

Marriages Sep 1884 (>99%)
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Bridgman Walter Pancras 1b 142

Mason Annie Pancras 1b 142

The district Pancras spans the boundaries of the counties of London and Middlesex

there is also this marriage,could walter marry twice


Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%)
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BRIDGMAN Walter Pancras 1b 155
MAY Susanna Pancras 1b 155


maybe susanna is constance's aunty and Constance May is her name father Warnham,just a shot in the dark

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 14 May 2009 16:22

just a thought - if the 1901 census is correct it is likely she was born in 1892 not 1893. How old was she on the marriage certificate - death certificates are often unreliable for dates of birth as they are only as good as the informant thinks.

When searching original pages the names are in alphabetical order so even if unreadable should be in the right position for Warnham.

sablon

sablon Report 14 May 2009 16:29

i have put in constance warnham without a birth date on free bdm and nothing comes up.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 14 May 2009 16:29

doesn't really fit any info other than as a niece of Walter but.....

Births Jun 1897 (>99%)
Bridgman Constance May Islington 1b 230