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Choccy

Choccy Report 2 Jul 2009 16:11

maybe

1881 England Census
Name: G. Henley
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Eaton Bray, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Mickleham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address: Norby Pk Farm
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Gardner

Registration district: Dorking
Sub-registration district: Dorking
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Channel 60
M. Channel 58
G. Henley 24
F. Hole 18



Bernie

Bernie Report 2 Jul 2009 16:21

Thank you for all your help today

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 2 Jul 2009 16:44

Sorry, I'd wandered off. ;)

I sure didn't do much for you, but I kept the thread going!

See ya next time!

Bernie

Bernie Report 3 Jul 2009 08:54

Can anyone please check the original entry for a Hamle Henley born Eaton Bray Beds 1872. Only time Ive seen the name. Could it be Ann.

Can you see occupation please

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 3 Jul 2009 08:59

GOLDS, Charles E Head Married M 48 1843 Carman
Bermondsey
London VIEW
GOLDS, Eliza Wife Married F 48 1843
Thirfield
Hertfordshire VIEW
GOLDS, Eliza J Daughter Single F 24 1867 Domestic Servant
Southwark
London VIEW
GOLDS, Albert Son Single M 21 1870 Porter
Southwark
London VIEW
GOLDS, George Son Single M 20 1871 Porter
Walworth
London VIEW
GOLDS, May R Daughter Single F 18 1873 Domestic Servant
Camden Town
London VIEW
GOLDS, Edith Daughter Single F 16 1875 Domestic Servant
Camden Town
London VIEW
GOLDS, Frederick Son Single M 14 1877 Telegraph Messenger
Thirfield
Hertfordshire VIEW
GOLDS, Ruth Daughter Single F 13 1878 Scholar
Camden Town
London VIEW
WEBB, Alfred Boarder Single M 19 1872 Fireman Railway
Newmarket
Cambridgeshire VIEW
HENLEY, Hamle A Boarder Single M 19 1872 Proyendent
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire VIEW
FENN, Alfred Boarder Single M 18 1873 Capstan
Leighton
Bedfordshire VIEW
TINNEY, Frederick Boarder Single M 22 1869 Horse Keeper Groom
Wing
Buckinghamshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
133 Folio:
107 Page:
16

Registration District:
Pancras Sub District:
Kentish Town EnumerationDistrict:
15 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Martins

Civil Parish:
St Pancras Municipal Borough:
Address:
72, Prince Of Wales Road, St Pancras County:
London

name possibly Hannah on image

Bernie

Bernie Report 3 Jul 2009 09:02

Thank you

Bernie

Bernie Report 8 Jul 2009 09:05

Hi

Got lots of help the other day, Thanks for that.
Asked for occupation of Hamle (Ann) and got PROYENDENT.
Googled it and looked in dictionary,asked around, but nobody knows what a Proyendent was.

Can anyone help please

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 8 Jul 2009 10:15

I might read it as Provendent.

About the only thing I can think of is something like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_and_Provident_Society

-- she might have been employed by a provident society?

If you search the 1881 census by occupation alone, for Provident, it gives 23 people with several occupations along that line.


Bernie

Bernie Report 8 Jul 2009 10:18



Thank you .
I will have a look

Dea

Dea Report 8 Jul 2009 10:26

Hi Bernie,

Not getting anywhere with the occupation at the moment but am I right in thinking that you believe this 'Hamle' is your Ann ???

If so, could I point out that Hamle A is in fact MALE.

A 'may' just have found him on 1901 where he is a Police Constable but that is not yet certain as he has a different name (I will work on it).

Could I just ask - on Sarah Ann's birth cert, is there any indication that she might be a twin? - Could you give the details you have from there please? Is there a time of birth mentioned?

Dea x

Bernie

Bernie Report 8 Jul 2009 10:37

Hi Dea

Yes I have seen that Hamle is male but like I posted earlier Im clutching at straws.
Birth Cert reads.
4/9/1871 Eaton Bray Beds
Sarah Ann Girl
Father Thomas Henley Farm Labourer
Mother Mary Henley formerly Janes
The mark of Mary Henley mother Eaton Bray
Reg 5/10/1871 William Brown registrar



She was not a twin but another sister reg Ann was born in 1870 but died 3 days later
Births reg Leighton Buzzard

The only other Henley born in Eaton Bray around this time is Arthur but I cant find him either in 1891 so maybe its him.

Dea

Dea Report 8 Jul 2009 11:47

This is what I have been looking at Bernie,

I do think that Hamle A is in fact Arthur - this is the one who is a Policeman on 1901.

I think he is a cousin of your Sarah Ann - He was registered on the same birth reference no. as her, which is why I thought they may be twins.

However, his father was Joseph, who I believe was the brother of your Sarah's father Thomas.

They were obviously both born within weeks of each other and perhaps the two mothers (sisters in law) went along together to register the births?

Dea x

Bernie

Bernie Report 8 Jul 2009 11:53

Hi Dea
I have Arthurs death in cemetery records in 1905 and didn t think he left the village, but you have found another piece of my puzzle.
You are right about Joseph.

Thank you

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 8 Jul 2009 12:35

Oh Duh, Dea!

I was so focused on the name and the occupation I didn't even look at the sex!

Dea

Dea Report 8 Jul 2009 13:46

'Silly Janey" !!!!!!!!!! (tee hee!)

Dea x

jansmith

jansmith Report 8 Jul 2009 18:01

1891 any good?(i haven't looked to see if she is in other years )
Name: Annie Harmeson
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England
Civil parish: Eaton Bray
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Eaton Bray

Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Sanders 28
Jane Sanders 8
Rosa Sanders 7
Albert Sanders 4
Frederick Sanders 2
Annie Harmeson 20

County/Island: Bedfordshire




these are on the same page?(could they be Henley)
Jane Hunley abt 1855 Ivinghoe, Buckinghamshire, England Head Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire
Frederick Hunley abt 1880 Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England Son Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire
Rose Hunley abt 1882 Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England Daughter Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire
William Hunley bt 1887 Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire,



edit had a quick look and haven't found her any other year

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 8 Jul 2009 18:42

Jan - from the image, 1891 - that HUNLEY is indeed HENLEY, clear as day.

(You want to make the correction at Ancestry??)

HARMESON is actually HARRISON.

But she's single, and there wouldn't seem to be any reason for the different surname.



edit -- Annie Harrison in 1881, independent existence from Ann Henley:

Name: Annie Harrison
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Niece
Where born: Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England
Civil parish: Eaton Bray

Name: Ann Henley
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary
Where born: Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England
Civil parish: Eaton Bray

jansmith

jansmith Report 8 Jul 2009 19:26

Thanks Janey ,had to get dinner so hadn't had a good look for her.

Bernie

Bernie Report 9 Jul 2009 06:50

Thank you for still looking ladies.
All of my info on census from Eaton Bray comes from fische film at Dunstable Library . In1891 I have Frederick, Rose and William living with their father Jesse (widow) in Gammons Lane. I do have a Jane from around 1855 who was Jesses cousin but she was born in Eaton Bray.


Not seen the hunley entry so will check again.

I have seen people entered twice on same census before like Ruth Henley 1860 on the 1881 census.
Is this a common event.

jansmith

jansmith Report 9 Jul 2009 08:03

1891 Hunley is 54 Gammons Lane Jane is a widow and a duckbreeder!
There is this Jesse
Name: Jesse Henley
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England
Civil parish: Eddlesborough



Name Age
Jesse Henley 50
Elizabeth Henley 50 wife
Elizabeth Hubbins 72 mother
living in Grays Yard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Eddlesborough
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England