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hi Londonbelle.well , i went to the liabry today and had a look at the original census 1891 the only difference was Clarana she was Clara May born eng,
I then looked up charles Glide's birth .
Charles Harvey Glyde Jan 26th 1885 son of Thomas Glide and Eliza Angel both born England and charles Born st peter port.

Yes, I would be interested to know who Charles' mother is ..... if it is Eliza it could be that the surname might not be 'Crews' as it's possible that Eliza could also have been married before like Thomas.

I think that Thomas' first wife was Emma Mugford

Marriages Sep 1856
GLIDE Thomas Totnes 5b 326
MUGFORD Emma Totnes 5b 326

and that she died

Deaths Dec 1877
GLIDE Emma aged 43 Totnes 5b 128

i think i need ti get charles birth cert to see if Eliza is his mother i will let you know

also this census including a 17 year old Eliza in 1881


Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Samuel CREW Head M Male 58 B Down, Somerset, England Coal Miner
Pheobe CREW Wife M Female 56 Guernsey, Channel Islands
Eliza E. CREW Daur U Female 17 B Down, Somerset, England Laundress
Sarah A. CREW Daur Female 14 B Down, Somerset, England
Joseph H. CREW Son Male 11 B Down, Somerset, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling B Down P House
Census Place Bedminster, Somerset, England
Family History Library Film 1341592
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2458 / 77
Page Number 20

it looks like maybe Mary A Crewe born 1831 Eng could be an aunty of Eliza Crewe married to Thomas Glide , giving the guernsey /uk link.
this has to be Sophies mother,same parish .

found this in 1881
this Crewe family living in same street as where my Great grandfather was born and had the godmother Sophie Crewe who is a servent in 1881,this must be her family

Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Mary A. CREWE Head W Female 50 England
Charles CREWE Son U Male 20 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Stone Dresser
William CREWE Son U Male 18 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Stone Dresser
James CREWE Son U Male 16 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Stone Dresser
Harriet CREWE Daur U Female 14 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands
George CREWE Son Male 11 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Scholar
Walter CREWE Son Male 8 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Scholar
Eliza CREWE Daur Female 6 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling Rolland Road
Census Place St Sampson, Guernsey, Channel Islands
Family History Library Film 1342352
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5628 / 84
Page Number 35

Hi ,sorry for the delay in replying ,yes that is my G/grandfathers family ,spelt the name wrong. i tried variations except RR and SS together also Albert ,albery no wonder i could not find him thanks,as the barrasins in Guernsey are all related i am 100% on that one,
Charles sounds likly too.Given all the mistakes the 1911 are making
So Charles is here in guernsey and making the follow up on census for The 2 Thomas's its looking Good
and charles is born here so i will try to find his birth and see if the mother matches up

Could this be Albert & Family in the 1911?

HOUSEHOLD BARRASSIN ALBERT M 1902 9 Guernsey Guernsey
>>>>HOUSEHOLD BARRASSIN ALBERY M 1881 30 Guernsey Guernsey
HOUSEHOLD BARRASSIN EMILY F 1906 5 Guernsey Guernsey
HOUSEHOLD BARRASSIN FLORENCE F 1886 25 Guernsey Guernsey
HOUSEHOLD BARRASSIN IRENE F 1908 3 Guernsey Guernsey
HOUSEHOLD BARRASSIN LILIAN F 1905 6 Guernsey Guernsey
HOUSEHOLD BARRASSIN WILLIAM M 1909 2 Guernsey Guernsey

I think I've found Charles in the 1911 census in Guernsey under surname GLIVE! He is with wife Elizabeth and daughter Winifred......do you think that is him?

HOUSEHOLD GLIVE CHARLES M 1887 24 Guernsey Guernsey
HOUSEHOLD GLIVE ELIZABETH F 1883 28 Guernsey Guernsey
HOUSEHOLD GLIVE WINIFRED F 1909 2 Guernsey Guernsey

Yes, I can only locate Thomas Jnr & Family in the 1911. Mind you I don't find the 1911 census very user friendly.....you can spend a small fortune trying to find people!!

charles seems to have dissapered 1n 1911 married 1907 so where has he gone with the family
also my g/grandfather albert Barrasin is not on 1911
they should all be in guernsey then,

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Henry W. SMITH Head M Male 40 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Master Ship Carpenter
Harriet M. SMITH Wife M Female 36 St Peter Port, Guernsey, Channel Islands Carpenter Wife
Henry W. SMITH Son Male 13 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Scholar
Walter G. SMITH Son Male 10 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Scholar
Alice M.M. SMITH Daur Female 8 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Scholar
Edith E. SMITH Daur Female 6 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands
Harriet SMITH Daur Female 4 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Scholar
Elizabeth SMITH Daur Female 3 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands
Bertha SMITH Daur Female 1 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands
William H. SMITH Son Male 2 m St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands
Sophia A. CREWE Serv U Female 21 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Gen Serv


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Source Information:
Dwelling South Quay Rd
Census Place St Sampson, Guernsey, Channel Islands
Family History Library Film 1342352
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5628 / 70
Page Number 7

on the 1881 census says she was born st sampsons guernsey lol

Hi Sablon

Back again .......

What area of the country did Sophie Crewe come from?

With regards to Thomas Snrs age in the 1881 census if you look at the 1891 census he is 57 but then in the 1901 census he is only 60! In all the other censuses his year of birth is around 1834-1836 it is only in the 1901 census that it leaps up to 1841.

rosanna glide died in 1872 age 14 years

londonbelle
Just had a recap on eliza crewe.i think this is them in 1881 as there is a Crewe connection to another member of the family .Charles son of Thomas married Elizabeth Barassin in1907 Elizabeth was born in 1882 and was the sister of my g/grandfather Albert joseph Barassin.
A Sophie Annie Crewe was Alberts Godmother in 1881. last night i was thinking on this Crewe name and new i had seen it before ,so looked at my notes and found this sophie Crewe,too much of a coincidence ,dont you think

thankyou for your help

No Thomas in the 1901 census aged 21 was born England

Sorry but I have to go now but will try and pick it up again tomorrow

ah but the 1901 census says thomas 1880 was born st p port
sorry that was the son born 1880 charles was born st p port 1885

Yes, I think this could be the same person. Have you seen there is also just below him a Thomas Glyde jnr 9 mths (is this his son Thomas aged 21 in the 1901 census) and then Eliza Crewes is this his wife?
Marriages Dec 1877
Crews Eliza Totnes 5b 332

1881 census
Name: Thomas Glyde
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England

Civil parish: St Helier
County/Island: Jersey
Country: Channel Islands

Street Address: "H.M.Goal Hse of Correctn"St Heliers
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Hawker

Registration district: Jersey
Sub-registration district: G
ED, institution, or vessel: Her Majestys Gaols and House of Convection

Thomas Glyde 45
Thomas (Jr.) Glyde 9mths
Eliza Crewse 35

oh right , maybe that is why there is a large gap between the first and second chlld 6 years.was the father in prison
oh my god i just looked at the 1881 census your right house of correction but that thomas was born 1834 and mine 1841