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Grandma Jean's birth:

Births Sep 1929 (>99%)
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Bailey Jean Hogg Blackburn 8e 427

Gt. Grandma Lily's marriage?

Marriages Sep 1921 (>99%)
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Bailey John W Hogg Blackburn 8e 898
Hogg Lily Bailey Blackburn 8e 898

Hi Jane, maybe we're all going down the wrong route right from the beginning. Could it be that Grandma was right and her name was Dora? We started off with that 1901 census stating that Dora was born in Cobourg, Canada. We then proved that she wasn't Dora, she was Clara. There is this marriage of a James Hogg possibly marrying Dora. Could it be them?

Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%)
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***Clement Dora Preston 8e 912
Farrer Richard Haygarth Preston 8e 912
***HOGG James Preston 8e 912
Rigby Agnes Anne Preston 8e 912

Do you know when and where daughter Lily was born?

Hi thankyou magaret. Do you think that the Clara in the 1901 is my great great grandmother then or am I going down the wrong route. My grandmother did tell me her husband was James Hogg so that still fits in.
I am just completly lost doing my family tree. All routes that I take just seem to draw a blank.

Jane

Jane, I'm fairly confident that Grandma had to be wrong. She's Clara L. on both 1901 and 1891 census, she married James Hogg as Clara Louisa Daintry and she's Clara Louisa on the 1881 census.

Hi just read that the census might be Clara Hogg. I know she was definatley Dora Hogg as my grandma gave me the name.

Jane

Hi thankyou all for your replies. I havent been able to get on here any sooner due to work. I started my family tree a few years ago with my grandma but then she sadly passed away. So I have now decided to finish it. So I am new to all this and I am struggling understanding all this. My great great grandma is Dora L Hogg and is on the 1901 census widow living off own means born in canada. Her husband was James Hogg, they had my great grandma Lily who married John Bailey who they had my grandmother Jean Baily. Hope this is more information.

I dont know where to go from here.
Thanx again
Jane

Tried also the 1851/1861/1871 Canadian Census...no luck !!!!

Regards Vera

Just checked on FMP they have it down as Clara L......... thanks for the info on registration.

Regards Vera

I can't look at any image - my point was GR and whoever suppllies their 1901 have it transcribed as Dora, wheras Ancestry don't.

As for no 1848 Cobourg birth - well statutory rego of BMDs only began in 1869, and there's only spotty transcriptions of the OPRs before then.

Just looked at the image I can see why it looks like Dora, but if you check the emumerators writing when he/she writes a D it is a capital.
What do you think?

Regards Vera

Hi Mgnv

Maybe my glasses need cleaning :-)....I cannot see a Dora Hogg 1848 born Canada on the 1901 ancestry........please help...

Regards Vera

Strange I cannot find her birth in Canada.........
Regards Vera

If I search records at GR, I get 3 exact hits on the 1901 census:

Hogg Dora 1895 Durham West Auckd Durham, West Auckland
Hogg Dora 1889 Northa Allendale Northumberland, Allendale
Hogg Dora 1848 Canada Coburg Chester, North Rode

The first 2 look like the Doras that Ancestry has.

..am wondering if she meant Clara....hopefully when she returns we will find out :-))


Regards Vera

Just thinking the same thing, Vera, where's Jane?
We've found a ton of info re: Clara, but she was looking for Dora!

Where are you Jane?


Regards Vera

Never heard of being able to download Canadian certificates.

I've never checked out
http://www.ontariogenealogy.com/
but it looks interesting.

A general purpose link:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html



Earliest census was:
1842 Cobourg (Town)
District: Newcastle District (#) / Sub-District: ()
Microfilm: LAC: C-1344; LDS: 281226 Item 7

You'ld have to rent the LDS film to see this, I think.

1851 Cobourg (Town) Agricultural
District: Northumberland (#24) / Sub-District: Cobourg (233)
Microfilm: LAC: C-11740; LDS: 349226
Personal census has been lost, all that remains is the Agricultural Census




Look up Vera's 1891 census at:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/index-e.html
Click on say, pdf, then full screen, then save

1901/1911 is searchable at:
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/index.html
[For 1901, transcribed as Lantry]

Alt:
http://ontariocensus.rootsweb.ancestry.com/onlinecensus.html
1901 Cobourg (Town), Northumberland County
Copyright (c)2005, Craig Kanalley, OntarioGenWeb's Census Project (http://ontariocensus.rootsweb.ancestry.com)
Transcriber: Craig Kanalley
Proofreader: Tanna Allan
LAC # T-6486
LDS # 1843568
District: Northumberland West
District No: 96
Sub-District: Cobourg (Town)
Sub-District No: b
Page(s):

DIV PG LN HN FN LAST_NAME FIRST_NAME SEX COLOUR RELATIONSP MARITAL BIRTH_DATE BIRTH_YR AGE BIRTHPLACE IMMIGRT_YR NATURAL_YR ORIGINS NATIONALITY RELIGION OCCUPATION REMARKS STREET NAME
1 3 8 24 24 Damtry (?) Laura F W Head W November 29 1840 60 Ontario Irish Canadian Church of England R. King
1 3 9 24 24 Damtry (?) Laura F W Daughter S May 19 1872 28 Ontario English Canadian Church of England King
1 3 10 24 24 Damtry (?) Lillian F W Daughter S July 12 1879 21 Ontario English Canadian Church of England King
1 3 11 24 24 Liscomb Roda F W Domestic S August 12 1872 29 Ontario English Canadian Presbyterian King

Look up 1901 at:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1901/index-e.html
to get to:
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000088063.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000088057.pdf
[a 9 room wood-frame house. Laura owns 35 ac, 1 town lot, 0 houses, 10 barns, sheds, etc - presumably this house on King St is rented then]


The standard LDS site has:
1881 Household:
Name Marital Status Gender Ethnic Origin Age Birthplace Occupation Religion
John DAINTRY M Male English 48 England Civil Engineer Church of England
Sarah L. DAINTRY M Female Irish 41 O Church of England
Percival G. DAINTRY Male English 10 O Church of England
Louise C. DAINTRY Female English 9 O Church of England
Edith DAINTRY Female English 7 O Church of England
Lilian E DAINTRY Female English 2 O Church of England
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Source Information:
Census Place Cobourg, Northumberland West, Ontario
Family History Library Film 1375876
NA Film Number C-13240
District 124
Sub-district D
Division 2
Page Number 43
Household Number 229+


To get the image, we can look this up at:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1881/001049-100.01-e.php
to get:
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008178076.pdf


Using the AG URL given earlier, we find:

1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Northumberland West / 25 Cobourg / page 9 split view
39 108 Daintry Sarah L. F Head W Nov 1842 68
40 108 Daintry Clara L. F Daughter S May 1873 38
41 108 Daintry Lillian F Daughter S Jul 1880 31
42 108 Watt Mary F Maid S Jan 1888 23


Clicking on the split view link gives the image, but I've never saved AG images satisfactorarily, so:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1911/index-e.html
to get: http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002007272.pdf


http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/cobourg.htm
Octavious GATES (or Yates), 32, USA, Kingston, s/o William & Hannah, married Elizabeth DAINTRY, 24, England, Cobourg, d/o George S. & Mary, witn: George S. DAINTRY & W. Irvine STANTON, both of Cobourg, 29 July 1858
This, presumably, has relevance for the 1901 CHS census MargaretM posted.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~onvsr/deaths.htm
DAINTRY, John, m, June 6, 1899, 67 years, England, cause - complication with Bright's disease, fatty degeneration of the heart, infm - W.J. Douglas, Cobourg (Northumberland Co) 018479-99