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Simmonds in Bisham, Cookham, Berks.

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Terence

Terence Report 18 Aug 2009 09:06

Trying to sort out the family of Daniel Simmonds1848 who married Martha Norris1859 in Dec 1872. I have 4 Henry's born around 1874. Whichever is the correct one seems to have disappeared after the 1881 census! All the children seem to have a second christian name, except 2 of the Henry's I have found. I have also found 2 Ellen's and 2 Annie's. My grandmother is Catherine Margaret1890-1976 for which I have birth and marriage certificates and death details. The parents seems to have stayed in Bisham Viiage most of their lives. Frustratingly I cannot find much about Elizabeth (Harriet?)1882, as I remember her and a daughter Frances? well. Elizabeth was still alive in 1968. I can't find her marriage to trace Frances' marriage. Help please?
Terence Meads. South Australia.

Terence

Terence Report 19 Aug 2009 01:50

Thanks about Henry 'Jonesey'. There is the same registration for a Clara. I have checked 6 months on for her death, from their possible birth as twins. Can you advise on this please? As I mentioned I am trying to find the marriage of Elizabeth Simmonds, but I have 1902 Reading 2c 817, 1906 Maidenhead 2c 947, 1908 Reading 2c 935, 1912 Maidenhead 2c 943. So far I cannot determine which one is correct, regarding the cost of certificates. Elizabeth had at least two daugthers Frances and June.
Hope you can help further?
Terence.

Terence

Terence Report 19 Aug 2009 02:55

Looking for Annie Blanche Simmonds 1886 Cookham 2c 12?, I have just found an Albert Ernest, JAS 1886 Cookham 2c 414!!! Was there more than one Simmonds family living in Cokham/Bisham?
Terence.

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 19 Aug 2009 03:01

1891

Name: Annie B Simmonds
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Fredrick G
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Maidenhead, Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Cookham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Maidenhead
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Cookham
Sub-registration district: Cookham
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Fredrick G Simmonds 31 >>>>>>>>General lab
Ellen Simmonds 31 >>>>>>>>>>>>Born Kenilworth, Warwickshire
Arthur W Simmonds 7
Annie B Simmonds 5
Rosa I Simmonds 2

All born Maidenhead


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1004; Folio 119; Page 37; GSU roll: 6096114.



1901

Name: Albert E Simmonds
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Louisa E
Gender: Male
Where born: Clewer, Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Bray
Ecclesiastical parish: Braywood All Saints
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Maidenhead
Sub-registration district: Bray
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 135
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Simmonds 52 >>>>>>>>>>>>>Wheelwright
Louisa E Simmonds 53
Albert E Simmonds 16 >>>>>>>>>>>>Gardener (domestic)
George W Simmonds 14 >>>>>>>>>>Wheel wright appr
Edward Simmonds 11






Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1159; Folio: 59; Page: 21.

Cassy

Terence

Terence Report 19 Aug 2009 07:20

Thanks 'Liverbird' I now have parts of more than one family of Simmonds from you and what I have found. I am trying to concentrate on the Daniel/Martha family (as mentioned at the start). I have birth lists for Daniel Simmonds OND1847 all1848 and all 1849 but cannot find him.
Most transcribed lists (1881) say he was born 1848 in Nettlebed Oxon, but the 1851 & 61 census' show Caversham, if I have the right family, the age is right. Elizabeth1882 is still a mystery so far.
Terence.

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 19 Aug 2009 12:04

1891

Name: Elizabeth Simmonds
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Daniel
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: Bisham, Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Bisham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Bisham
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bisham Village

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Cookham
Sub-registration district: Cookham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Simmonds 42 >>>>>>>>>>>>Born Nettlebed, Oxfordshire, general lab
Martha Simmonds 40 >>>>>>>>>>>>Born White Waltham, Berkshire
William Simmonds 16 >>>>>>>>>>>Born Ruscombe, Berkshire, Ag lab
John Simmonds 11
Elizabeth Simmonds 8
Annie Simmonds 6
Ellen Simmonds 3
Kate Simmonds 8/12

All rest born Bisham

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1004; Folio 36; Page 2; GSU roll: 6096114


Name: Elizabeth * Simmonds
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Cookham
County: Berkshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 4_3


Births Jun 1882 (>99%)
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Simmonds Elizabeth Harriet Cookham 2c 423




poss marriage

Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%)
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Clark Elsie M Ridgway Maidenhead 2c 943
Ridgway Edward H Clark Maidenhead 2c 943
>>>>>>>>>Silvey George W Simmonds Maidenhead 2c 943
>>>>>>>>>Simmonds Elizabeth H Silvey Maidenhead 2c 943

can't find any children with that marriage though

Cassy


Terence

Terence Report 31 Aug 2009 01:49

Thanks Cassy, have applied for the marriage certiificate for Silvey/Simmonds.

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 31 Aug 2009 02:53

1901 England Census
about Daniel Simmonds
Name: Daniel Simmonds
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Henley, Oxfordshire, England

Civil parish: Bisham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Bisham
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address: Village, Bisham

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Maidenhead
Sub-registration district: Cookham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Simmonds 52 Farm Labourer
Martha Simmonds 50
Ellen M Simmonds 13
Catherine M Simmonds 10
Victor P Simmonds 5
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1160; Folio: 34; Page: 2.



Births Jun 1887
Simmonds Ellen Mary Cookham 2c 411

Births Jun 1895
Simmonds Victor Philip Cookham 2c 407


Brenda

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 31 Aug 2009 02:56

Possible marriage for Victor?

Marriages Sep 1924
Butler Annie G Simmonds Edmonton 3a 1166
Simmonds Victor P Butler Edmonton 3a 1166

and for Ellen Mary?

Marriages Sep 1911
Hawes Arthur F Maidenhead 2c 933
Simmonds Ellen M Maidenhead 2c 933



Brenda

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 31 Aug 2009 03:03


1911 Census Household Transcript

Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born:
SIMMONDS, DANIEL HEAD MARRIED M 64 GARDENER DOMESTIC OXFORDSHIRE NETTLEBED
SIMMONDS, MARTHA WIFE MARRIED 40 F 62 BERKS WHITE WALTHAM
SIMMONDS, ELIZABETH DAUGHTER SINGLE F 29 BERKS BISHAM
SIMMONDS, VICTOR SON SINGLE M 15 GENERAL LABOURER BERKS BISHAM

SIMMONDS VICTOR (RG14PN6638 RG78PN330 RD123 SD1 ED1 SN26)
Address BISHAM MARLOW County Berkshire
District Maidenhead Subdistrict Maidenhead
Enumeration District 1 Parish Bisham

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 31 Aug 2009 03:21

Maybe births for children of Victor?

Births Dec 1924
Simmonds Female Butler Easthampstead 2c 643


Births Jun 1931
Simmonds May Butler Easthampstead 2c 668
Simmonds Peter Butler Easthampstead 2c 668


Brenda

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 31 Aug 2009 03:31

Further information re Elizabeth Harriet...........

1st husbands death.......

Casualty Details
Name: SILVEY, GEORGE WALTER
Initials: G W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Corporal
Regiment/Service: Royal Berkshire Regiment
Unit Text: Depot
Age: 33
Date of Death: 19/05/1917
Service No: 26188
Additional information: Husband of Elizabeth Harriet Field (formerly Silvey), of 6, York Rd., Marlow.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: C. M. 31.
Cemetery: MARLOW CEMETERY


2nd marriage
Marriages Sep 1921
Field Francis H Silvey Wycombe 3a 2456
Silvey Elizabeth H Field Wycombe 3a 2456


their children.........

Births Mar 1925
Field Frances E Simmonds Wycombe 3a 1470

Births Sep 1927
Field Phyllis J Simmonds Wycombe 3a 1454
( could this be June as 2nd initial is J)?



Brenda

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 31 Aug 2009 03:49

Would this be anyone who is connected to your Daniel Simmonds ?

Casualty Details
Name: SIMMONDS, HARRY
Initials: H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Berkshire Regiment
Unit Text: 1st/4th Bn.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 16/08/1917
Service No: 201513
Additional information: Son of Daniel Simmonds, of Shellingford Cross Rds., Faringdon, Berks.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. B. 11.
Cemetery: DUHALLOW A.D.S. CEMETERY



Brenda

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 31 Aug 2009 04:00

Matha's birth & death...........

Births Sep 1850
Norris Martha Cookham 6 169


Deaths Mar 1935
Simmonds Martha 84 Maidenhead 2c 567

and Daniel......


Births Jun 1849
SIMMONS Daniel Henley 16 83

Deaths Dec 1924
Simmonds Daniel 75 Maidenhead 2c 422


marriage of Daniels parents?

Marriages Dec 1843
Jervis Sarah Henley 16 177
Simmonds Robert Henley 16 177


Brenda

Terence

Terence Report 2 Sep 2009 07:14

Thanks to 'Brenda' (for pointing out more info) also many more to 'Moody Blue'. I was just going to add to many more hours of researching the Simmonds family, but this latest info has been an immense help.

Very glad to have info on Frances and Phyllis (we knew her as June) .
I now have to find their children.
We know that Frances married David Whitbourne and Son Freddie worked in the dairy in Bisham Village.

Annie Simmonds (Dec 1885?) info still remains elusive to me. She is 6yrs in the 1891 census, but my searching has not yet found her 'in service,' as is the the case generally. Have not found her possible early death either!

In this column 'Jonesey' mentions a Harry Simmonds in the Royal Berks Regt, but he was born in 1873!

To end for now, I have received the certificate for Elizabeth's first marriage confirming George Walter Silvey, and, as I have 7 Simmonds families from the different census', I have yet to trace one of the 'witnesses' named Alfred William Simmonds? I have yet to put together another Simmonds family in Cookham/Bisham! The one with Annie Blanche Simmonds! (Parents Fred G/Ellen Simmonds).
Terence.

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 2 Sep 2009 19:04

Marriages Sep 1908
PITHERS Albert Charles Eton 3a 1750
SIMMONDS Annie Blanche E Eton 3a 1750

1911 Census Household Transcript

Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born:
PITHERS, ALBERT CHARLES HEAD MARRIED M 23 LABOURER GENERAL BURNHAM BUCKS
PITHERS, ANNIE BLANCHE E WIFE 2 F 25 LAUNDRESS MAIDENHEAD BERKS


PITHERS ANNIE BLANCHE E (RG14PN6657 RG78PN330 RD123 SD1 ED19 SN92)
Address 67 WALDECK TERRACE MAIDENHEAD County Berkshire
District Maidenhead Subdistrict Maidenhead
Enumeration District 19 Parish Maidenhead




1901 England Census
about Albert C Pitkin
Name: Albert C Pitkin
[Albert C Pithers]
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Harriet A
Gender: Male
Where born: Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Burnham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Burnham
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address: Sunnyside ?

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Eton
Sub-registration district: Burnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 126
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriet A Pitkin 53 Widow, born Westtide, Hampshire, England
Agnes S Pitkin 19 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England
Herbert J Pitkin 15 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England
Albert C Pitkin 13 Farm Lab born Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England
Florence M E Pitkin 5 grandchild born Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1344; Folio: 33; Page: 18.

All should read Pithers




1901 England Census
about Blanch Simmonds
Name: Blanch Simmonds
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Frederick
Gender: Female
Where born: Maidenhead, Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Maidenhead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew and St Mary
Town: Maidenhead
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address: Tyrrells Buildings 36

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Maidenhead
Sub-registration district: Cookham
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 154
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Simmonds 43 Widower / Coal Carman labourer
Blanch Simmonds 15
Jane Simmonds 13
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1161; Folio: 18; Page: 27.

Brenda

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 2 Sep 2009 19:23

Births Dec 1875
Simmonds Alfred William Wokingham 2c 373

Ruscombe is in Wokingham district.


Marriages Mar 1898
Fleming Jessie Elizabeth Maidenhead 2c 571
Simmonds Alfred William Maidenhead 2c 571


1901 England Census
about Alfred W Simmonds
Name: Alfred W Simmonds
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jessie E
Gender: Male
Where born: Ruscombe, Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Bisham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Bisham
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address: Village, Bisham

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Maidenhead
Sub-registration district: Cookham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred W Simmonds 25 Engineer on Electric Launch? (Barge)
Jessie E Simmonds 26 born Marlow Bucks
Kate E Simmonds 2 daughter born Bisham
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1160; Folio: 35; Page: 3.




Brenda

Terence

Terence Report 3 Sep 2009 07:04

Thank you very much again Brenda, these 'Annie's' (and all the Simmonds in fact) seem (to me) to be a little confusing!
I am actually looking for the Annie1886 of Daneil1848/Martha1850.
All of their children: John1880, Elizabeth1882, Annie1886, Ellen1887, Catherine1890 and Victor1895 appear to be born in Bisham..
Except Henry1873, Hurley and William1875, Ruscombe.

I have Frederick G1860/Ellen1860 Simmonds with Arthur W1884, Annie B1886 and Rosa I1889 in the 1891 census living at 8 Long Acre Farm, Cookham. Would this be the same family (in your latest info) in 1901?

I'm not sure about Alfred William, he could have dropped his first name early on. As with some others!!
I appreciate your help Brenda, I should not leave it all to you, I will continue with my efforts.
Terence.

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 3 Sep 2009 21:13

hi Terence,

Yes, it is the same family in 1891 and 1901.

Here is the birth of Rosa Jane Simmonds ( re 1891 census)

Births Mar 1889
Simmonds Rosa Jane Cookham 2c 389

In the 1901 census she appears as just "Jane". So she could be known by her second as was Annie "Blanche" Simmonds?

marriage of Frederick George Simmonds?
Marriages Mar 1880
Marks Ellen Cookham 2c 627
Simmonds Frederick George Cookham 2c 627

.Possible death for Ellen (mother)

Deaths Dec 1900
Simmonds Ellen 43 Maidenhead 2c 241

Terence

Terence Report 4 Sep 2009 10:50

Thanks yet again Brenda, every item counts to putting the puzzle together.
I must ease off with the searching for a few days as other interests and pursuits are getting neglected!
Again many thanks Brenda.
Terence.