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I am sure we will be here,,,,,none of us seem to get out much Terry;)
If you need more help on the family just tag another message on here and we will see it,even after quite some time.
Good on here we are...
good luck.
viv

Hi,
Sorry Viv. your right, I'm looking at a lot of info. so got confused. I will now look at purchasing William's details and go from there. If I need anything further hope I can contact you all for help. Many thanks to all you good people for all your help in my reseach.
Kind Regards
Terry K

And changed his name for some reason,mind you Arthur Henry does have more of a ring to it than plain Harry...

The best thing to do is check out ALL the childrens names born to Arthur and Jane and see if they add up to what we have on here.

Kathleen {kate}
Mary Jane
William Henry
Charles{charley}
Sarah ann
Susan Elizabeth
Florence
and Llilian.

Well,

I believe Viv has posted the correct info on 'Harry' born in Wincanton to William + Julia.

She posted 2 possible birth (the 1875 looks favourite, though it really could be either).

Either he lied about his age at marriage or, more likely, it has been mistranscribed on the cert? (He should be 35 'ish not 25 ! ).

Anyway, it looks like the mystery is now solved.

Dea x

Add these 2 births and you get 6 aunties,plus a couple of uncles,Wiliam and Charles.
I make it 8 kids not 12,but maybe I have missed some.
If this is the correct family of course.....


Births Jun 1913

Foote Florence M Perring Plymouth 5b 467

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Births Mar 1816

Foote Lilian Perring Plymouth 5b 390

On 1911 Jane would have been 19 when Kathleen the eldest was born ,not 9

viv

Hi Dea,
The detail on my Gran (Jane) are correct, having spoken to several members of the family and a cousin to verify this. Her age on the marriage cert is also correct 23 in 1910 which would make her birth in 1882. I know that my Grandparents had about 12 children according to my gran when she was alive, but i only knew about six Aunties. including my mother. In the 1911 census info from Viv. some of the children born would have made Jane 9,11, 13 and 15 yrs old at their births which would have been to young, they did have a daughter Sarah Ann born in 1909. It get's more confusing with more info.
Terry K

For info - this appears to be Jane:

1891 England Census
about Jane Perring
Name: Jane Perring
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth

Civil parish: St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Plymouth
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:............... 3 Alice Street !



Registration district: Plymouth
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Perring 49 ??? Labr.
Sarah Perring 49
Thomas Perring 14
George Perring 12
Jane Perring 9 *****

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1735; Folio 17; Page 28; GSU roll: 6096845.

Dea x

Hi Terry,

The one thing which does 'jump out at me' from those marriage details is that all the info we have so far points to Arthur Henry being born c 1876/77.

The one on this marriage cert puts him at being born c 1885. - Whereas he may have lied about his age, it is a big difference. - I just wonder if we have the correct marriage here?

Also the couple on 1911 say they have been married for 11 years which again could be a lie as they had several children before 1911.

Are you absolutely sure this marriage cert relates to 'your' Arthur Henry?

What other info do you have on him which you know to be correct?

Dea x

Hi Everybody,
Here is the infoormation from his marriage cert.
Married- 31 Aug. 1910
Names- Arthur Henry Foote = Jane Perring
Ages - 25 & 23 yrs
Conditon - Bachalor & Spinster
Rank - Labourer
Residence - 110 King St. Plymouth (Arthur) and 2 Alice St. Plymouth (Jane)
Father's name - William Foote and George Perring
Rank - Labourer for both.
Witnesses - Sarah Perring and Henry Thomas
I hope this helps
Regards
Terry K

1911 he says he is born Wincanton,same in 1901 where he is Harry, with wife Jane and baby Kathleen,known as Kate,in Plymouth
same birth place in 1891,and 1881 and a little sister Kate with them
With father William
Bet that Kate turns out to be another Kathleen.
I think he was born Harry myself and changed his name.
But I am more than willing to be proved wrong ......

1891 England Census
about Harry Foote
Name: Harry Foote
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Julia
Gender: Male
Where born: Wincanton, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Wincanton
Ecclesiastical parish: Wincanton
Town: Wincanton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England


Registration district: Wincanton
Sub-registration district: Wincanton

Household Members: Name Age
William Foote 46
Julia Foote 37
William Foote 19
Kate Foote 13
Harry Foote 16
Florence Foote 10



viv :)

This could be his birth (name spelt without the "e") :-

Name: Arthur Henry Foot
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Weymouth (To 1958)
County: Dorset
Volume: 5a
Page: 329

This looks like this Arthur in the 1881 census:-

Name: Arthur H. Foot
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Geo.W. (father could be known by middle name)
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Preston, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Preston
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address: Sutton Pointz
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Upway
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:

Name Age
Geo.W. Foot 42
Emma Foot 40
Wm.F. Foot 15
Elizth.J. Foot 12
Arthur H. Foot 5
Thos. Foot 3
Annie L. Foot 1

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2103; Folio: 89; Page: 11;GSU roll: 1341507.

Kath. x

1881 England Census
about Harry Foot
Name: Harry Foot
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Julia
Gender: Male
Where born: Wincanton, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Wincanton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address: Mill Street
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Wincanton
Sub-registration district: Wincanton
Household Members: Name Age
William Foot 33 <<<masons labourer
Julia Foot 29
William Foot 8
Harry Foot 6
Kate Foot 3
Florence Foot




So his birth is probably one of these..

Births Dec 1873
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Foot Harry Wincanton 5c 479

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Births Mar 1875
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Foot Harry Wincanton 5c 513

1901
Name: Harry Foote
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Wincanton, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Plymouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:>>General labourer



Employment status: View image

Registration district: Plymouth
Sub-registration district: St Andrew

Household Members: Name Age
Harry Foote 24
Jane Foote 21 <<<plymouth
Kate Foote 3 months <<<plymouth

Specially for all of the helpers on this thread,its so frustrating not to know when the info wanted is there to be found.



1911
FOOTE, Arthur Henry Head Married M 33 1878 Labourer In Saw Mills Sommerset Wincanton
FOOTE, Jane Wife F 29 1882 Nil Devon Plymouth
FOOTE, Kathleen Daughter F 10 1901 Devonshire Plymouth
FOOTE, Mary Jane Daughter F 8 1903 Devonshire Plymouth
FOOTE, William Henry Son M 6 1905 Devonshire Plymouth
FOOTE, Chanley Son M 4 1907 Devonshire Plymouth
FOOTE, Sarah Ann Daughter F 2 1909 Devonshire Plymouth
FOOTE, Susan Elizabeth Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Devonshire Plymouth

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
12978 Reference:
RG14PN12978 RG78PN749 RD276 SD3 ED2 SN362

Registration District:
Plymouth Sub District:
Plymouth South West EnumerationDistrict:
2 Parish:
Plymouth

Address:
7 Quarry Court Plymouth County:
Devonshire

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A second marriage it would seem as they have not been married a full year it says.
After checking the image they say they have been married 11 yrs.
NIL is in the column for Janes occupation.
OR they didnt marry before the first lot of kids came alng?/

Births Mar 1901

FOOT Kathleen Plymouth 5b 242

Are you going to respond to the 1911 possibility or shall I just delete it?
Jan

Do you know for a fact that his middle name was Henry??

Dea x

Possiblility in 1881


1881 England Census
about Arthur Foote
Name: Arthur Foote
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England

Civil parish: Plymouth St Andrew
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address: 5 Gloucester Lane
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Plymouth
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Foote 35 tin miners wife
Willm.J. Foote 17
Leonard Foote 15
Alice M. Foote 9
Frederick Foote 6
Arthur Foote 4
Amelia James 29
Frederick James 5

Christine

So Terry,

Could we have ALL the details from the marriage cert please - names, addresses, ages, occupations - fathers details and occupations + date and place and also - witnesses.

Thanks,

Dea x

Hello all the good peolpe who have tried to help me in my research into the birth of my grandfather Arthur Henry Foote, I now have a copy of his marriage cert. and it records his father's name as william. This still has not help me to find where he was born. Help!!