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Must be doing something daft here lol,I cant find that 1851 census.

Thanks Helen he`s a bit of a problem

I just put in George Hoad on this site in 'search records' 1816 and up he came :o)

Lynda, Have you looked on scotlandspeople for his birth?
What are his parents names on his marriage cert?

Ah, thanks Helen. That was one i looked at but the age threw me.

Helen,
I am looking for Simeon (30ish) and Elizabeth Harwood (30ish) and family inc Benjamin (9 & 19) in 1841 and 1851 census in the Surrey area.
Thanks Russell

Here you go Russell

1841

Name Benjamin Harwood
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1832
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Address West Drayton
District Brentford, Staines & Uxbridge
Parish
Administrative County Middlesex
Birth Place
Birth County NO

Simeon Harwood H 45 Miller
Elizabeth W 45
Benjamin S 9
Jane D 6
James S 4

1851

Name Benjamin Harwood
Age 19
Estimated Year of Birth 1832
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Agricultural Labourer
Address Highfolds Green
District Guildford, Woking
Parish
Administrative County Surrey
Birth Place Stoke
Birth County Surrey


Simmion Harwood H. 60. Ag Lab. Worplesden?
Elizabeth W. 59. Shropshire
Benjamin S. 19. Ag Lab. Stoke, Surrey
Jane D. 17. Stoke
James S. 15. Stoke
May daughter-in-law. 20? Westmoreland
Robert? grandson. 2. St.Mary's Parish

bit of a variation on ages for Simeon and Elizabeth between the two census'

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BEN HARWOOD
Male
Christening: 12 AUG 1832 Stoke Next Guildford, Surrey, England

Parents:
Father: SIMEON HARWOOD
Mother: ELIZ

Helen, I got them on the 1911 cenus too :)). Christine kindy looked it up for me.
If your still bored, theres a Jonathan Hoad c 1816 got sent to Tasmania for 10 yrs.
I wondered if he was related to the ones I'm looking at.
I think I found him on the 1841 with a wife Susan/Susanagh. Cant see him after that though.
He might be be from that family I just got curiuos...as you do lol as to what happened to him.

Hi Marion,
when was he sent to Taz?
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He was sent over in 1853.Looks like he was a bit of a lad lol.
I found it on Ancestry.

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
about Jonathan Hoad
Name: Jonathan Hoad
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Date of Trial: 4 Jan 1848
Trial Year: 1848
Location of Trial: Kent, England
Sentence: Imprisonment
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Imag

No joy yet Marion...*sigh*

It seems he was convicted twice, second time was 10yr in Tasmania.


Australian Convict Transportation Registers – Other Fleets & Ships, 1791-1868
about Jonathan Hoad
Name: Jonathan Hoad
Vessel: Oriental Queen
Convicted Date: 10 Mar 1849
Voyage Date: 23 Oct 1852
Colony: Van Dieman's Land
Piece: HO 11/17
Place of Conviction: Kent, England

No wonder he's the invisible man...spent most of his life on ships! Actually is it the same conviction? The dates are very close together

I thought i might have found him over here someplace in the 1851. No sign though.
I'm sure I read he was given 3 mth for theft then 10y for something. I cant view the image.

could this be a possibility if he re-married?

1851
Name John Hoad
Age 35
Estimated Year of Birth 1816
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Carpenter
Address Rendegvoers Street
District Elham, Folkstone
Parish
Administrative County Kent
Birth Place Cranbrook
Birth County Kent

John Hoad H 35 Carpenter Cranbrook
Elizabeth W 27

I thought I mighr have found him in Jail.
Oh well, not to worry. Might never find who he was.

Marriages Dec 1841 (>99%)
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BATES Elizabeth Maidstone 5 442

HOAD John Maidstone 5 442

If he was married to Susan first, he didn't let the grass grow...lol