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Member Since: November 2002 Posts: 12,949 Send Message	MarionfromScotland	Report	28 Nov 2009 13:15
	i thought maybe this was the...Jailbird lol 1841 England Census about Jonathan Hoad Name: Jonathan Hoad Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Gender: Male Where born: Kent, England Civil parish: Wittersham Hundred: Oxney County/Island: Kent Country: England Street Address: Occupation: View image Registration district: Tenterden Sub-registration district: Rolvenden Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Jonathan Hoad 25 Susan Hoad 25 Jane Hoad 5 Elizabeth Drury
Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 105 Send Message	Russell	Report	28 Nov 2009 21:36
	Helen, Hi there, I'm afraid I didn't get the copies through to my e-mail...... Also can i give you a new search too if poss: John Terry (c1806) and family including son Charles Frederick Terry (c1836) living in Essex. In the 1841,51 & 61 census. Or is this a bit too much of a request. Thanks for anything you can find Russell
Member Since: June 2008 Posts: 71 Send Message	Helen	Report	1 Dec 2009 07:54
Member Since: June 2008 Posts: 71 Send Message	will take a look, Russell
Member Since: June 2008 Posts: 71 Send Message	Helen	Report	1 Dec 2009 08:42
Member Since: June 2008 Posts: 71 Send Message	Russell, was Charles Frederick's mother called Harriet? Have found what I think is the family but without John (c.1806) H
Member Since: June 2008 Posts: 71 Send Message	Helen	Report	1 Dec 2009 09:08
Member Since: June 2008 Posts: 71 Send Message	1841 Joyners Lane, Romford & West Ham Harriet Terry 40 Labourer's Widow George 15 Ag. Lab Charles 12
Member Since: October 2009 Posts: 86 Send Message	Kaz	Report	1 Dec 2009 11:28
Member Since: October 2009 Posts: 86 Send Message	do you know how i cant trace a relative i believe may have had a spell in prison or to be fair at war history not my strong point. the name of the person george bithell born 1848 with his wife elizabeth yates and at least 5 children 1881 he was living with his wife 19 whitworth road birmingham with 3 children florence arthur alfred i can trace through every census except the 1891 but i have been told he may have been in prison at the time in hmp hereford but how would i find out if thats the right one and what he did to go to jail
Member Since: June 2008 Posts: 71 Send Message	Helen	Report	1 Dec 2009 12:00
Member Since: June 2008 Posts: 71 Send Message	Hi Kaz, I'm not a member of Ancestry which has more records available to search. I've searched everything I could and no joy. Sorry :o(
Member Since: October 2009 Posts: 86 Send Message	Kaz	Report	1 Dec 2009 12:40
Member Since: October 2009 Posts: 86 Send Message	thanks anyway
Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 105 Send Message	Russell	Report	1 Dec 2009 13:07
	Helen, unfortunately I don't what his mothers name was so I can't verify. Though I'd be keen to have a look at whatever you have found and maybe I can figure it out. Thanks Russell
Member Since: June 2008 Posts: 71 Send Message	Helen	Report	1 Dec 2009 16:11
Member Since: June 2008 Posts: 71 Send Message	1841 census record Name Charles Terry Age 12 Estimated Year of Birth 1829 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Address Joyners Lane District Romford & West Ham Parish Administrative County Essex Birth Place Birth County Yes 1841 Joyners Lane, Romford & West Ham Harriet Terry 40 Labourer's Widow George 15 Ag. Lab Charles 12
Member Since: June 2008 Posts: 71 Send Message	Helen	Report	1 Dec 2009 16:40
Member Since: June 2008 Posts: 71 Send Message	Can you clarify, Russell,...when you think/know the family were living in Essex? H
Member Since: November 2002 Posts: 12,949 Send Message	MarionfromScotland	Report	1 Dec 2009 16:48
	Just peeking in here. Kaz. Could this be George visiting a sister? This one was in the Navy though. d Census about George Rich Bithell Name: George Rich Bithell Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1849 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: Rise, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Newton Kyme With Toulston Ecclesiastical parish: Newton Kyme Town: Newton Kyme County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Tadcaster Sub-registration district: Tadcaster ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Maria Bethell 48 Lucy Bethell 46 George Rich Bithell 42 Oswald Bithell Walker 15 Wilfred Beckett Walker 14 Rachel Mary Parsons 6 Algernon George Parsons 4 Mary Ann Burbridge 37 Annie Korifton Smith 40 Harriett Mortimer 25 Mary Stonehouse 34 Clara Ashby 23 Dora Bell 20 Frances Ann Pearson 20 Frederick K Copeland 30 Josiah James Oliver 41
Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 105 Send Message	Russell	Report	1 Dec 2009 19:04
	Helen, I know John William Terry (1875 - 1942) was living in Leaden Roding, Essex in 1901 and I believe his father Charles Frederick Terry (circa 1836) lived there before him and his father John Terry to whom I refer (c 1806 - 19/04/1879) was also there. Charles Frederick Terry married a Marie Ann Harrington in 1863. Hope this gives you enough info to go on. Thanks Russell
Member Since: June 2008 Posts: 71 Send Message	Helen	Report	2 Dec 2009 11:15
Member Since: June 2008 Posts: 71 Send Message	No joy yet Russell :o(
Member Since: June 2008 Posts: 71 Send Message	Helen	Report	2 Dec 2009 11:24
Member Since: June 2008 Posts: 71 Send Message	1871 Name John Terry Age 65 Estimated Year of Birth 1806 Relationship to Head of Household Father In Law Occupation Agricultural Labourer Address New House District Hatfield, Dunmow Parish Administrative County Essex Birth Place Leaders Roothing Birth County Essex Charles Crouchman 39, born Matching, Essex Emma Crouchman 37 William Crouchman 16 Elizabeth Crouchman 12 John Crouchman 10 Charles Crouchman 7 Emma Crouchman 3 Edward Crouchman 1 John Terry 65, father-in-law I got another kind soul to look up the full list for this address. So we know Charles Frederick had a sister Emma but I still can't find either of them, nor father John prior to 1871

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