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I think we're all around the bend now!!
Sorry-June!!

Maureen

Julie started it. And now she's typing Blachin! You're going to get me in such a muddle!!!!

oops best change it

On Junes 1st post she says

iv got birth certificate for levi ethrington. dad john mum jane kemp
& that she was told Janes maiden name was Balchin

But on a B/C if Kemp was down as maiden name then where does the Balchin come into it

Thats why im thinking June has the 2 Janes muddle up ( no offence June)

And it's June not Jean. Lol

Oh arn't we all in a muddle now!!!!!!!!!!!!

We were trying to find a Jane Balchin born 1817 who was living with a John Etherington with children Levi Etherington 1856 and Amos Etherington 1860/61.

Later Amos Etherington 1860 on the census changed his name to Balchin which was his mothers name.

He married under the name of Balchin and had a son Amos Balchin in 1900.

Well thats the way I see it.

Maureen..i can tell you who didn't lol

As June has gone i don't think theres any more we can do

Julie

Cor, Julie!! So who do you suppose wed whom in 1910??

Maureen

In that same post June says here

He is Amas Balchin born 1901 reigate.His dad was Amas ethrington born 1860 Redhill . mother jane balchin???

Past info from Jean:

Hi MEL she is my Great Gran im doing the balchin side but cant get past keepers cottage were my dad was born. He is Amas Balchin born 1901 reigate

The AMOS 1860 redhill was his dad wed my nan in 1910 after my dad was born

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Once again. Do you have the birth cert for Amos 1901??
Who are the parents??

Maureen

June not Jean

And I'm trying to go backwards-not start in the middle!! grin

Maureen

But in one of Junes post she says that Amos Balchin's dad was Amos Ethrington b 1861, & that his parents were John Ethrington & Jane Kemp

It would not fit if she was Levi's mum

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Jane Etherington
Name: Jane Etherington
Year of Registration: 1852
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Epsom
County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 5

Julie thats what I have been saying but it's John and Jane Balchin and their son Amos Balchin 1860ish and as far as I can tell he had a son Amos too.

There is this Jane and Reigate & Godalming are not far from each other

1901

Jane Balchin
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Godalming, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Godalming
Ecclesiastical parish: Godalming St Paul and St Peter
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Guildford
Sub-registration district: Godalming
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 167
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Balchin 55
Jane Balchin 33
William Balchin 27

No Maureen I think you are on the right track. Amos is the son of Amos I think.

This is a long shot

Maybe Amos & Jane wasn't married and thats why your Dad was registered as a Balchin. Did he have any siblings


To me Jane Kemp & Jane Balchin are 2 different people

On those Christenings I put up for Levi and Amos, Levi's said John Etherington and Jane and Amos's said John Etherington and Jane Balchin. Thats why I thought maybe he had a wife before called Jane Kemp. Maybe he did'nt marry her either, it happens a lot.

I'm still quite confused. How did you come to the conclusion that Amos snr was born ETHERINGTON?

Who exactly did he marry?

I can't find these people in 1891:
Ancestry 1901
Name: Amos Balchin
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Redhill, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Burstow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Burstow
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

>>>>>>>>Street Address:Keeper's Corner

Registration district: Reigate
Sub-registration district: Horley
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 47
Household Members: Name Age
Amos Balchin 37
Emily Balchin 27
Violet Balchin 12
Thomas Balchin 10
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 629; Folio: 206; Page: 8.

The only people I see in 1911 are a big maybe:



1911 census transcription details for: 13 Brighton Terrace Hooley Lane Redhill

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN3227 RG78PN121 RD37 SD2 ED20 SN51


Reg. District: Reigate Sub District: Reigate
Parish: Reigate Enum. District: 20

Address: 13 Brighton Terrace Hooley Lane Redhill
County: Surrey


Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

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DOWLING, Peter Head Married M 36 1875 Asylum Attendant Earlswood Asylum Peckham Surrey

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DOWLING, Violet Wife Married
5 years F 22 1889 Paddock Wood Kent
(is this Violet from 1901?? I looked at FreeBMD for a likely marriage,but all I'm coming up with is a SIMMONDS/DOWLING marriage.)
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DOWLING, Stanley Son M 3 1908 Copthorne Surrey

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DOWLING, Gladys Daughter F 2 1909 Redhill Surrey

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BALCHIN, Emily Visitor Married F 40 1871 Surrey Redhill
(says she's had 5 children. All living.) If this is the same one as 1901 she's certainly aged!!
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BALCHIN, Thomas Visitor M 21 1890 Printers Surrey Redhill

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BALCHIN, Robert Visitor M 8 1903 School Surrey Copthorne

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I don't see the 2 Amoses anywhere in 1911.


Sorry if I'm way off base!!

Maureen

Am OLD am OAP!!

Still looking but I had to go and feed the chickens.

Mel do you know whot i did not think of that dont get old.Thank you.