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thanks for all your help on here you have found out the lytollis /ward info it has been a hard slog but thanks to you lot i am more informed thanks once again just wish i could go back further than 1803 but just carnt do it

hi thanks yes i have seen the site and it is the right family but i can not get anyfurther back than 1803

Have you seen this site?

http://www.lytollis.info/2005/03/lytollis-story_03.html

hi thanks but i know all that info im trying to find out about him before he came to carlisle were he married jane masson but thanks for your help

There's a tree on Ancestry that has Robert Lightallers born abt. 1780, Lancs or W. Yorks. He married Jane Mason 21 Feb.1803, St. Cuthbert's, Carlisle, Cumbria, and died 1806-1808. It says killed in action.
This was added:
"Robert must have come in to Cumbria to learn a new trade which was weaving.Possibly from North Yorkshire or Lancashire.
He was a weaver,before joining the army to serve in the Napoleonic wars, and was killed while fighting for his country. All men between the ages of 18 and 45 were required to be registered for the local Militia. He was in the Lancashire Militia."

There were 2 children, John (1803-1806) and Joseph (1806-1888) who married Elizabeth Irving and had 10 children.

hi can anyone help im still trying to find more out about robert lightallers i know he married jane masson in 1803 and they married and lived in carlise please if anyone can help thanks

hi try to find more info on robert lighttallers all i know is he married jane masson in carlisle in 1803 i am try to find out where hes parents are and where they came from please can anyone help

still trying to find mary wards parents can anyone help please

im still trying to find mary wards mum and dad i know she married richard gardiner i think she was born in 1895 and i know her granmother was called mc cann and she was from ireland

just checked out that info but i dont think it matches up to my dates

i didnt mean to im just new on her and carnt really use this lap top

margaret seem to have some good info just going to check it out

YES - It is VERY safe to come back on!!

Dea x

Christine -Have you have deleted your posts!! Why ??

Dea x

Thank you Margaret - this is where she got it from then !!

Dea x

I added this to your other thread about the same family:

A very interesting site here. I wonder if it's your family?

http://lytollis.info/

This part I found particularly interesting:

Jane’s remarriage to Michael Ward begins a Ward/Lytollis confusion. (Joseph b.1806 was only two at the time and at least three more Ward children were born) The families descended from Joseph, throughout the next 100 years, usually referred to themselves as various spellings of Lytollis in church records but as sometimes as Ward in the censuses. (I met a lady in Carlisle who was brought up as a Ward but later found she was in fact a Lytollis.)The spelling of the name changed frequently over the next 100 years among others there are Lightallers, Lighttollous, Lytallis, Littallis, Litellus, Litollus, Letillus, and Lytellon. Of course very few people could write at the time and it was left up to the parish clerk or vicar to listen to the name and do as best he could.

yes - come back Christine - we won't kill you yet!!!!

[hope she has a sense of humour]

OOOhhh goody !!

I lived in Wales for many years and my son is Welsh by birth! - I feel better now too!

Come back Christine - all is well!

Dea x

feel better now - Wales won!!!!

thought I had better tone it down!!!! and Wales is getting thrashed by Scotland in the rugby so I ain't a happy bunny!!

OOOer AOGG - Is 'evil' calmer than 'murderous' ??

I think SO (tee hee!).

I believe Christine is really wanting to learn and appreciative of the help given but is probably new to the site and does not know how it works.

We will see when she comes back.

Dea x