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Do you have this?
1901 census
7 Wagner St., Deptford, Canmerwell, London
Samuel H. Groombridge, head, 33, printer's labourer, born Walworth
Martha, wife, 33, born Peckham
Ernest, son, 6, born Deptford
William, son, 5, born "
Florence, dau, 2, born "
Alfred, son, 8 months, born Camberwell

Not sure if you have this?

Marriages Jun 1892 (>99%)
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Groombridge Samuel Henry Camberwell 1d 1339
Keen Martha Eveline E Camberwell 1d 1339

Oh my! In 1891 Martha Keen was a widow, she's age 23, laundress, a boarder with the Mitchell family at 59 Blockhouse St., St. Paul's, Deptford.

Martha's first marriage:

Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%)
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Bond Martha Emilene E St Saviour 1d 177
Keen Edward St Saviour 1d 177

And Edward's death?

Deaths Mar 1891 (>99%)
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Keen Edward 29 Camberwell 1d 637

Oh! I don't know when to stop!

Name: Edward Keen
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Spouse Name: Martha Emilene Eliza Bond
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Jul 1886
Parish: St Mary Magdalene
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Keen
Spouse Father Name: John Bond

Original says both fathers were deceased.

Yes I do have the 1901 census. That is the first thing I found when 1901 census went on line. Didn't do anything else on the family tree then. Not until last year did I start looking further into it. Got a prod to do it when I saw Who Do You Think You Are - telling to ask Granny for info before it was too late. Doing this for my 3 grandchildren originally but became quite fascinated at what you can find out. Sure I know more about my mother's family than she ever did!

Wonder if it was the fact that Florence was the only one registered in Lambeth is why she is the one you cannot find.

Replied to one without realising there were more. Yes I did know she was a widow. Couldn't find details of her marriage at first because I was looking for it to a Groombridge. Really mystified because I knew my father said her maiden name was Bond. Finally got Marriage Certificate for Samuel Henry and was very surprised to see the name she was married in was Keen until I saw she was widowed. Thanks for her first marriage record. Wasn't sure what husband's first name was. Gosh I see you've got even more than I asked for. Did know her father was dead.

Was going to raise another thread to see if she had children by her first marriage (probably not surviving) because I'm minus 3 on number I was told she had. Will that be necessary or could you do that for me as well as "you cannot stop". Thanks so much.

Jeanie

Pause to prepare evening meal. Back later.

I'm pausing for noontime meal. (I'm in Canada) I did look for children of first marriage but couldn't find any.

Hi Margaret in Canada.

Have checked bmd because just noticed Florence was shown as born in Newington but pretty sure I have the right one because I obviously know her married name - records as under:

Births Jun 1898
Groombridge Florence Amelia Lambeth

Marriages Sep 1916
Groombridge Florence A Hall Southwark

Thought I found some births under Keen before his death - I'll have another look at bmd now.

Hope you're there Dee. Here goes:

Groombridge Eliza Harriet born 1846 - died 1900? Husband died quite young. She may have remarried. bmd just says 1900 Eliza Groombridge. Maybe Parish Register would show more?

Groombridge Samuel Henry born 1867 - died 1933?

Groombridge Martha Emmeline Eliza - Possibly around 1945

Groombridge Ernest Alfred born 1894

Groombridge Emma Beatrice born about 1897

Mead Elizabeth Frances born about 1902 last known living in Kidbrooke - not sure if this is within scope of records - and may have re-married and become E.F. Sumner

Groombridge May Elizabeth - February 1964 I think. Burial Streatham, Wandsworth. I'd just had a baby and been quite ill as a consequence. Actual details forgotten.

Jeanie

Ok Jeanie... found you.


dee x

Sorry Dee. I'll have to to off-line. Elderly greyhound has a problem.

Have posted another item on Briaris thread. Hope I'm not keeping you too long over the half hour you intended.

Hope to 'chat' with you again some time.

Regards
Jeanie

Hi Jeanie,

Hope the greyhound is ok? I've been looking and can't see a burials for any of them.

I'll look for any remarriages.


Dee x

I can see the remarriage for E F Mead to A J Sumner..... I can't see a death for her though.

Her baptism gives a DOB of 21st July 1902


Dee x

Think I had been given that D.O.B. My list of queries had been sitting in draft form until I had got some of the other things sorted and obviously I hadn't updated it.

Glad to hear she did marry John (see that was his second name) - these things sent to try you.

Perhaps I'd better not post on here what family said about first husband!

I will not swear again - but I'm now going to do some you know what

Thanks again

Jeanie

Hi

I'm back on this thread now! Just trying to establish whether the following is a relation of my family. Do know great grandfather also married in Bethnal Green - so maybe.

Marriages Dec 1892
Groombridge Edwin Arthur Bethnal Green - married Rosina Watson.

Thanks

Jeanie

Hi jeanie,

Hope you've had a lovely day and made the most of the glorious sunshine... I've just got a couple of mins on here today;

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Edwin Arthur Groombridge
Name: Edwin Arthur Groombridge >> Carman
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Spouse Name: Mary Rosina Watson
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1892
Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Water Groombridge >> Coachman (William Walter Groombridge on image)
Spouse Father Name: James Watson >> Carman


Address for Edwin; 135 Gosset Street.
Address for Mary; White Street


Witnesses; W Groombridge and Charlotte Atherton




Dee xx

Hi Dee

Thanks for that. Looks like it's a no then - just coincidence - but thanks for trying.

Afraid I didn't get out in the sunshine much. Had such a disturbed night's sleeps - lots of strange dreams. Didn't feel refreshed at all. Must have spent a good hour of the day napping. Still, never mind, sleep is good for you too!

Regards

Would be grateful to receive any further details on following events:

Marriages Mar 1915
Groombridge Ernest Nicholls Southwark
Nicholls Emma B.

Births Sep 1897
Nicholls Emma Beatrice St Saviour

THANKS IN ADVANCE
Jeanie