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Groombridge - William not found on 1911 census

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MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Apr 2010 14:12

Name: Ernest Groombridge
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Spouse Name: Emma Beatrice Nicholls
Spouse Age: 18
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Mar 1915
Parish: All Souls, Newington
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Samuel Groombridge
Spouse Father Name: Edmund Nicholls

Original gives address for both as 10 Exon St. Ernest is a porter, his father a printer, her father a carman. Witnesses Edmund Nicholls and Kate Rosina Nicholls.

Dozey

Dozey Report 26 Apr 2010 14:18

Thanks so much Margaret - got your name right this time! Seem to remember I called you Maureen once when someone of that name had been helping me.

Nice to see you on here again.

Regards
Jeanie

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 26 Apr 2010 17:14

No Emma.

But these if you dont have them
?
Born 17th May 1892
Cant read the address

Name: Maud Elizabeth Nicholls
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 3 Jun 1892
Father's Name: Edmund Nicholls<<carman
Mother's Name: Ada Nicholls
Parish: St Mark, Walworth
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

Name: Kate Rosina Nicholls
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 7 Nov 1894
Father's Name: Edmund Nicholls<<carman
Mother's Name: Ada Beatrice Nicholls
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Walworth
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

Born 17th Sept 1894

51 Salisbury Buildings

Dozey

Dozey Report 26 Apr 2010 18:47

Thanks for that "Fanny". Haven't investigated the Nicholls family - was waiting until I had made sure this was the correct Ernest.

No doubt you'll be seeing more of me. When I've more time I'm going to post on another branch of the family. Please watch out for me.

Regards
Jeanie

Dozey

Dozey Report 16 May 2010 13:13

Looking for help with this family member please.

Name: William Frederick Groombridge
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 30 Oct 1895
Father's Name: Samuel Henry Groombridge
Mother's Name: Martha Groombridge
Parish: Corpus Christi Mission Church, Camberwell
Borough: Southwark
County: London
DOB 13 Oct. 1895

He is listed on 1901 census with his family living at 7 Wagner Street, St. Pauls Deptford. Have recently received from a distant relative a copy of the 1911 census (address 12 Wellington House, Crosslett St?) but on that he is missing from the list. Haven't been able to find a death for him between those two dates.

My sister and I think he is the family member who died in WWI who was known in the family as Billy. Have searched for a War record for him without success.

Knowing what excellent researchers we have on this site would like any further information you can find. Could it be that in 1911 he was already in the services? He would have been 15/16 at that time.

Thanks

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 16 May 2010 13:40

This looks like him in 1911??

GROOMBRIDGE, William Frederick Inmate Single M 15 1896 School London Walworth
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
14771 Reference:
RG14PN14771 RD317 SD2 ED21 SN9999

Registration District:
Keynsham Sub District:
Kingswood Enumeration District:
21 Parish:
Kingswood

Address:
Kingswood Near Bristol County:
Somersetshire

Edit..
Tut tut...Its a Reformatory School so who was a naughty boy then?

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 16 May 2010 13:45

i found this one for 1911, but it does not answer anything, plus i am not too good at London area districts etc, so whether or not Walworth covers where he was born i know not.

GROOMBRIDGE, William Frederick Inmate Single M 15 1896 School London Walworth VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
14771 Reference:
RG14PN14771 RD317 SD2 ED21 SN9999

Registration District:
Keynsham Sub District:
Kingswood Enumeration District:
21 Parish:
Kingswood

Address:
Kingswood Near Bristol County:
Somersetshire



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George

Dozey

Dozey Report 16 May 2010 13:48

Thank you both so much! Not the first naughty boy in the family I've discovered. Still wondering if he went into the services. I'll keep my fingers crossed he reformed and 'did his bit' for his country.

Regards
Jeanie

Dozey

Dozey Report 16 May 2010 16:11

I've hunted down my old notes that I made last year and I can see that I found a William Groombridge with residence of Newington Butts (cannot say where I found it though). Have looked at my London A-Z and that is very close to Crosslett St. where the family were living on 1911 census (both places still there despite the bombing).

Will have another look at War Graves Commission site although I think I came up blank on that.

Jeanie

Dozey

Dozey Report 16 May 2010 16:31

Found one (but without second initial).

In Memory of
Private W GROOMBRIDGE

24934, 42nd Bn., Machine Gun Corps (Infantry)
who died
on 30 October 1918

Remembered with honour
GREVILLERS BRITISH CEMETERY

Could anyone advise whether if I get service record against above number would it show parents? where he was living? His age is unknown.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 16 May 2010 17:28

It may if you can find it on Ancesrtry Jean,but you did know that only about 25% of WW1 records survived the Blitz of WW2 dont you?.

If it survived and he wasnt an Officer then it should be on there.

The Medal cards only give what medals were won and the rank,so it would have to be service records to stand a chance.

Also he may have been in any regiment,it depends where he was assigned to.
For example If he enlisted in Surrey it does not always follow that he would be in a Surrey Reg...

Dozey

Dozey Report 16 May 2010 18:39

Thanks Fanny.

No I didn't know about the destruction of records during WWII. However, from my notes think the Newington Butts one enlisted in New Cross which makes it highly likely as a joining up point for anyone living in that area.

Paid many a visit to the Greyhound Racing Track at New Cross with my dad when I was a teenager. Never would have thought then that in my sixties and seventies I would give a home to four ex-racers.

Regards
Jeanie

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 16 May 2010 18:51

Dont now the New Cross one but I worked at the Hackney one for about a week in the early 80s,in the kitchen,hated it.
My grandad took me to White City when I was about 5, way back when.

But I used to go often to Walthamstow and Wembley in the late eighties and early 90s..

Dozey

Dozey Report 16 May 2010 19:38

Something we have in common then. When I lived in Kent with a couple of children and a mortgage to support when the OH came home one night a week I worked on the Tote at Crayford, and also on the Saturday. Quite enjoyed that as a break from the four walls. Didn't enjoy the night when one of the dogs somersaulted, broke its neck and had to be put down though.

Have only been once lately - if you can call about 5 years ago lately - and that was to the Portsmouth one. Right come down from London tracks I must say. It has closed this year.

My girl Melody (before she raced at Portsmouth) - raced at Wimbledon. Best bred one I've had. Three quarters Australian, one part Irish, and came first or second in 12 of her 36 races. Quite proud of her. Wish I could have seen her race.

Jeanie