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madmeg i have thomas death certicicate he died 1974
my step grandad was 91 when he died 1974 as my auntie was named as next of kin on it i have the orinal certicate and nan marriage certicate to james rogers ive the original

Tracey, Wot Qualification column? None of mine have such a column.

Baffled.

have found a birth for william F Maher mothers maiden name rogers born 1Q 1937 liverpool N

so this must be the son margarets daughter married. Still cant find a marriage for Margaret ann to a William francis Maher thoughwas Margaret a informant on the death certificate for William




Ann

Yes Tracey, that would seem to be the case.

Death of Thomas F Maher, possibly, but there are others that might fit:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Thomas F Maher
Name: Thomas F Maher
Death Registration Month/Year: 1967
Age at death (estimated): 74
Registration district: Liverpool North
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10d
Page: 395

If Starr knows his occupation or any other details, to get this death cert, the best bet would be the local register office. Give them lots of details about possible informants and see if they can help.

I'm confused now...are we saying the death is that of the son in law and not the father?

Tracey x

Sorry, missed that important bit.

So Margaret Ann Forsyth/Rogers married Thomas F Maher in Liverpool in 1932.

OK,

Maybe i have been lucky.... It's in the qualification column.

3 say 'Qualification' ...causing the body to be cremated and 1 says, causing the body to be buried @......

I suppose the burial one has maybe already had a prebought plot?

Dates on the certs vary, all are the portrait style cert.



Tracey x

Starr said this earlier.

DEA NO MARGARET BORN A FORSYTH MARRIED A ROGERS THEN MARRIED A MAHER ITS CONFUSING FOR ME COS MARGARET DAUGHTER ELIZABETH MARRIED HER STEP DADS SON

This is obviously the other marriage found by Meg but Starr must have the name wrong for her grandmother's marriage.

Marriages Sep 1932 (>99%)
Maher Thomas F Rogers Liverpool 8b 402
Rogers Margaret A Maher Liverpool 8b 402

Christine

madmeg
the marriage you got fror william francis a elizabeth m rogers is margaret anns daughter and willian francis mahers snr son
there where the confusion comes in mother and daughter married father and son
god help me im mad just checked death certificate and its thomas francis maher sorry my fault cos thoimas sons william francis and william francis son is william francis to sorry folks

Hang on let me get a cert.... i'll tell you what one of them says. I do wonder if it's post a certian date.


T x

Youre very lucky. ALL my ancestors kept their laundrey 'private' even after death!!

x

Not sure how a death cert could state place of burial - if you think about the process, the funeral comes afterwards (well, hopefully!!).
Jan

Hi

I am also confused with this marriage of Margaret to william maher

there is a Margaret A Rogers married july aug sept 1932 vol8b page402 liverpool lancashire to a THOMAS F MAHER

Ann

Tracey, that is interesting. I've only ever seen it on a Workhouse death, where the informat "Took the body for burial".

Wot about this second marriage anyone?

Tracey
Which country is that...and is it one particular area.

I have never seen a death certificate showing an indication of place of burial.

Gwyn

I have several death certs which state what happened to the body!

Depends on when they changed tho.... probably when they started to include birth dates maybe?

Tracey x

Tracey, burial details won't be on a death certificate, nor any indication of what was to happen to the body.

Occasionally a death in a workhouse said "given up to municipal cemetery" where there was no family, but not in 1955.

I am not happy with her second marriage to William F Maher, as the spouse is not Margaret Ann.

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about William F Maher
Name: William F Maher
Spouse Surname: Rogers
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1934
Registration district: Liverpool
Registration county (inferred): Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 955
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

Spouse Elizabeth M Rogers.

You say you do not have your mothers burial details?

This information i would have thought would be on the death cert? At the very least the cert will have what the intention with the body would be, IE Cremation or Burial. This would be the biggest clue as to where she will be?


Tracey x

She didnt marry again did she, after her marriage to Francis?

Although not the norm, it was not unheard of to divorce and maybe if they did she would be 'dead' in the eyes of the family?

Just a thought

x

Hi

I think that is a good idea to contact the cemetery that covers that area as I asked in the town I live in to look for someone whose date of death I did not know and they came up with it and the exact spot where he was burried.
I dont know if it is actually in Birkenhead they are burried but if so contact the dept and ask them especially as you know the exact date. I had to ask in my town hall for details. I assume you have your mothers death certificate.

hope all goes well and you find out what you want to know.

Ann