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Frank McRae b 1878, Essex

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Barbara

Barbara Report 16 May 2010 17:13

Frank first appears on 1891 census as 13 yr old scholar living with Emily McRae (widow) and her family. I cannot find a birth cert for Frank or marriage cert for Emily Jahn & Henderson McRae. 1911 census reveals Emily as having had 0 children. Henderson died 1886. Any ideas as to how I can discover who Frank's parents are please?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 16 May 2010 17:17

Just to get a fix on him:

1891 England Census

Name: Frank McRae
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Essex, England

Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: London
County/Island: London

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Kentish Town

Emily McRae 36
Frank McRae 13


Barbara

Barbara Report 16 May 2010 17:18

Yes, that's him.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 16 May 2010 17:19

Maybe??

Births Mar 1875 (>99%)
McRae Frank Stanley Croydon 2a 254

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 16 May 2010 17:22

That's not him I don't think:

1891 England Census
1890s

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Name: Frank S McRae
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Julia A C
Gender: Male
Where born: Beddington, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Ashby de la Zouch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Helens
Town: Ashby de la Zouch
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch
Sub-registration district: Ashby de la Zouch
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
George McRae 46
Julia A C McRae 45
Archibald C McRae 18
Frank S McRae 15
Evelyn M McRae 14
Sarah A Johnson 18

Barbara

Barbara Report 16 May 2010 17:24

No this is another McRae. Frank is not known to have any brothers or sisters

Barbara

Barbara Report 16 May 2010 17:27

No, not this family either I'm afraid.

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 16 May 2010 17:30

Possible death?


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Frank Mcrae
Name: Frank Mcrae
Death Registration Month/Year: 1943
Age at death (estimated): 64
Registration district: Surrey Mid Eastern
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 216

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 16 May 2010 17:32


1901 England Census
about Frank Mc Rae
Name: Frank Mc Rae
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras, London, England

Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Camden Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 206
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles H Maddison 40
Emily Maddison 43
Frank Mc Rae 22 Decorator, Paint

Barbara

Barbara Report 16 May 2010 17:32

yes this is his death which supports the year of birth.

Barbara

Barbara Report 16 May 2010 17:34

Yes this is the correct Frank. Have checked all Emily's brothers and sisters and he doesn't seem to be their child. All Henderson's family disappeared after the 1871 census.

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 16 May 2010 17:48

If this is Henderson McCrae spelled a little differently, then he is still single on this census:-


1881 England Census
about Henderson Mc Rea
Name: Henderson Mc Rea
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Vessels
County/Island: Royal Navy
Country: England

Street Address: "Crocodile"
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Private 1st R.B.

Registration district: Royal Navy
Sub-registration district: Royal Navy
ED, institution, or vessel: Crocodile
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

Barbara

Barbara Report 16 May 2010 17:53

Yes that's him. He died December 1886. Emily is living with her family in the 1881 census but describes herself as 'widow' reporting Henderson's death in 1886. Canot find any marriage cert for either

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 16 May 2010 18:02

Was Emily just Emily as I can see an Emily Julia Jahn on the census' and a marriage for her in 1895 Pancras

Choccy

Choccy Report 16 May 2010 18:07



any idea where Frank is in 1881 ?


brummiejan

brummiejan Report 16 May 2010 18:07

You mention Emily Jahn - is this the birth?

Births Sep 1852 (>99%)
Jahn Emily Julia Marylebone 1a 442

Choccy

Choccy Report 16 May 2010 18:10



London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Charles Henry Maddison
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Spouse Name: Emily Julia Mcrae
Spouse Age: 38
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Oct 1895
Parish: St Pancras Old Church
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
Father Name: John Maddison
Spouse Father Name: Frederick Henry Jahn



Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Pancras Old Church, Register of marriages, P90/PAN2, Item 023



Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 16 May 2010 18:18

Frank in 1911

1911 census transcription details for: 73 Ashen Grove Wimbledon Park
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN3474 RG78PN130 RD40 SD1 ED12 SN96

Reg. District: Kingston Sub District: Wimbledon
Parish: Wimbledon Enum. District: 12
Address: 73 Ashen Grove Wimbledon Park
County: Surrey
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
MCRAE, Frank Head Married M 33 1878 Ornamental Decorator Not Known
MCRAE, Annie Maria Wife Married
10 years F 36 1875 Clifton Bedfordshire
MCRAE, Muriel Dora Daughter F 6 1905 London Tufnell Park
MCRAE, Kathleen Marjorie Annie Daughter F 3 1908 London Fulham


Marriages Sep 1901
Cooper Annie Maria Biggleswade 3b 791
McRae Frank Biggleswade 3b 79

Barbara

Barbara Report 16 May 2010 18:24

Yes she really was Emily Julia Jahn (sometimes transcribed as John) and used that name on her marriage to Charles Maddison but on Henderson's death cert she is given the name Millie.

Barbara

Barbara Report 16 May 2010 18:25

Yes. You lot are amazing - i can't type as quickly as you are finding information!