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Spruce

Are you certain they divorced?


T x

Hi Tracy i have been trying to trace my grandma for a long time but i cannot find her, hope you can help. This is what i know born 1913 Doreen Williams ( knew you would like surname ) Crickhowell Wales. Married Charles Alfred Pocock in 1929 in Leicestershire. Had children got these even the adopted ones, divorced in the 1930's then she disapears. I have Charles second marriage. It is Doreen i'am trying to trace. Thankyou Rose

Janey

There is a tree that has the same wives etc but has this baptism....

1821 18 Mar Christening Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England

Do you think they have crossed wires somewhere, they have his parents as Thomas Barnard & Mary (i think they have missed a generation out?)

T x

EDIT:...ahhhh they probably copied the unadjusted tree, gotta love those who wildly copy across without checking facts!

EDIT2: looks like the Abinghall one dies in New York ! , Gotta love these tree's and people believe them.

That's him, and all the info came from me. ;)
edit - she's related to the Harnett family, and is a member here. I just met another descendant of RB JR who was confused by something quite messy in that tree -- oh, I see she's fixed it, she did have RB Jr identified as the completely different person born in Gloucestershire with parents Thomas and Mary. (I've been in contact with a descendant here at GR to confirm for certain it's a different guy.)

All the research about RB Sr actually comes initially from a distant cousin in a family that married into the B family, who did some searching I hadn't bothered to do and found him in the workhouse in Mere, and then I tracked back and got the parents' marriage in Mere, the children's baptisms, and the family being deported from Dorset in 1791!

Oops, you intervened, Madmeg.

Anybody who wants to give it a shot is always welcome, but I've had another generous member here go through the relevant CDs and all and nothing has ever come up.

One possible connection, a marriage of an Ann Barnard to a widower Jones in Bristol, and she may be the Ann Jones who turns up in early censuses as born in Mere, so could be Richard Sr's sister born 1785 I think it was. But nothing for Sr or Jr.

I tracked a Barnard household from Bristol around for a while some time ago -- mother Caroline born in the 1790s, a couple of sons. All I managed to find out was that the person with one of them in her tree here at GR wasn't really descended from him at all! -- her gr-grfather was born before the Barnard married the mother. ;)


edit again -- somebody I can't place at the moment has RB Sr married to Mary Barnard living in Southwark in 1861. Utter and complete garbage. ... Oh lord, that's the person I've recently been in touch with ... I mean, okay, RB Sr could have married bigamously in Scotland ... but I really don't think he had two sons named Richard.

As my husband is an anorak, we have a touring caravan (not the size that they have in Canada!). We also have a daughter who lives in Bristol, so we visit her a few times a year. I have spotted that the Bristol Records Office is a five-minute walk from the caravan site. So give me the details Janey, and next time I go I'll have a look. Is he the fella Tracey has mentioned?

EDIT Or I'll get the daughter to go and look. Time she did something worthwhile with her life.

Janey

There is someone with Richard in their family tree on Ancestry.

Have you ever made contact with this person? Or is this the other Richard Barnard - Goldbeater?

Richard Barnard
1821 Birth Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
1841 Age: 20 Occupation French Polisher
1843 5 Jun Age: 22 Marriage to Amelia HARNETT St Stephens, Hackington, Kent, ENG
1861 Age: 40 Marriage to Mary Cowdell Blean Kent
1898 Age: 77 Death Canterbury Kent England

Father:
Richard Barnard.

1791 Birth Mere, Wiltshire, England
1851 Age: 60 Occupation Inmate/ Gold Beater


Tracey x

Unbelievable !

sorry maaaaaaaaaaaaaam, i wills gets on with me duties now.

*tugs forlock while walking backwards*

T x

Oh, you're too quick for me. I did edit almost instantaneously, though! I also had his son being born 1921 ...

Kibbitzing. Aren't you paid to help me?? What do you think I pay for here, anyway ...

To quote...

"if you want to figure out what Richard Barnard born 1892-5 in Mere, Wiltshire, was doing around 1820"

I should imagine he was still a figment of his fathers as yet undeveloped imagination??

LOL

T x

(ducks for cover)

Somebody'd better come up with something for Tracey to do soon or she'll die of boredom!

I had this notion I'd spotted the problematic person on my other side in Chelsea pensioners once ages ago ... but it seems (FannyBG tells me) that he was both too late, and a scoundrelly sort of person, so I may have had a lucky escape. ;)

But hey -- if you want to figure out what Richard Barnard born 1792-5 in Mere, Wiltshire, was doing around 1820, I won't stop you! In 1841 he's in Scotland, having married there a little earlier, and then he reports his wife's death there a while later, and then spends a decade or two in the workhouse in Mere and dies there.

I know he's my grx2 grfather Richard's father from that one's marriage certificates in Kent (I can't imagine there were two Richard Barnard goldbeaters around at the time, and that seems a little esoteric for him to have made up), and I know who his parents were and what other kids they had and when they died -- but I have absolutely no clue who his wife was (mother of Richard Jr, presumably). No effort to find Jr's birth around Bristol around 1821 has borne any fruit.

Then ... if you want to take a stab at grx2 grfather Reuben Cooper in Nottinghamshire ...


edited to fix the various centuries I got wrong, in case I confused anybody ... hahahaha.

Well in that case the alcohol won't be the only headache she'll have in the morning..... a good dose of silence might come her way too....

I'm sure she'll be back.

Maybe with something more relevant to family history rather just just abuse.

Christine, you never bite the hand that feeds.



T x

May I suggest that she might have been on the juice, and not aware of how completely she is putting off all the people she has been depending on to do her family research.




sylvia

Christine - how very rude .

What a lovely charming person Christine is.

Hmmmm,

Gotta love screen dumps....

They are the things that take pictures of you and your name, your comments..... email to Genes...

Bye Christine.

FOOL.


T x

Oh dear

Christine really not a good way to get help in the future is it

Hahaha

Cheers Janey, i'm tired and just looking to fill some time in.

I have another one of these somewhere.... but people never add to an old one, so another it is!

How are your Monck's going (have i spelt them right) I have more Chelsea pensioners available now on FMP if you think you have any on there...?


T x

And just to add what you *meant* to say -- if you have your own thread or if you've asked on another thread, DO NOT post here -- give Tracey the thread number for your thread and she can look there. ;)

The thread number for this thread, up top

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1226215

is 1226215. All you need to do is give the number for your thread and anybody can find it!

People who have their own threads *and* post in lookup threads will be hunted down by the others who have already helped them, and throttled.

;) of course.