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I have been lead to believe that John Pike died in 1870.

coralie

1871 Census - but no John! Elizabeth is noted as married though.

Name: George Pike
Age: 11 months
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: B Salterton, Devon, England
Civil parish: East Budleigh
Town: Budleigh Salterton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: St Thomas
Sub-registration district: East Budleigh
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 126
Household Members: Name Age
William Gould 32
Jane Gould 35
Annie Gould 2
Elizabeth Pike 24
George Pike 11 months


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2046; Folio: 38; Page: 24; GSU roll: 831766.

Hi Everybody,

I Have received George Walter William James Pike's birth certificate it is as follows:
born: 27th april 1870 east budleigh
Father: John Pike Brickmaker
Mother Elizabeth Pike formerly sedgemore.
X mark of elizabeth Pike Mother east budleigh
registered 21st may 1870.

coralie

Coralie if you mean John Pike the father who we think could have been born 1823, you won't find a birth cert ofr him as records did'nt start until 1837 and it was'nt compulsary to reg a birth untill 1875 when they brought out a fine if you did'nt register a birth.

You would have to have a look at parish records or on Familysearch.org IGI which is free to search.

thank you everybody for your help I will add georges details when I get the certificate.
Once again a big thank you to everybody

coralie

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1870 (>99%)
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Pike George Walter W J St.Thomas 5b 42


Only order the certificate direct from the GRO. You can do this online and it costs £9.25


When you get the certificate add the details to your thread here if you require further assistance.

Good Luck.

How do I find george's vol and page for his birth certificate?

coralie

if I could find the vol and page number for john pike's birth certificate I would order that to find out his parents, but I don't seem to be able to find it.

coralie

Your next step should be to buy George Walter William Pike's birth certificate. This will give you his father's occupation and his mother's name. If George's father died when George was very young then he may have been unsure of his father's occupation. From the census records George looks to have been a servant living - in in 1881 so was not even living with his mother.

Last attempt for now.

This is the nearest that I can find and this John is a Mason's Labourer.

Name: John Pike
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Zeal Monachorum, Devon, England

Civil parish: Zeal Monachorum
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Crediton
Sub-registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
John Pike 49
Mary Pike 39
John Pike 10
Philip Pike 8
Sophia Pike 6

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1471; Folio: 40; Page: 14; GSU roll: 542818

IGI (International Genealogical Index) free to search at www.familysearch.org

thanks any way flick. can anyone tell me what is IGI birth?

coralie

I have a marriage certificate for george walter william Pike to elizabeth burgoin doble for 12/7/1890 stating that george's father was John pike deceased occupation brick maker.

coralie

I'll leave this now...........

sorry I don't have john's marriage certificate or birth certificate only that of marriage registration is correct in 1865 to elizabeth sedgemore and census is correct for 1871

coralie

1841

Name: John Pike
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England

Civil parish: St Thomas The Apostle
Hundred: Wonford
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: St Thomas
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Pike 30 Ag. Lab.
Mary Pike 32
John Pike 9
Mary Pike 7

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 265; Book: 11; Civil Parish: St Thomas The Apostle; County: Devon; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 6; Page: 7; Line: 24; GSU roll: 241330.



Name: John Pike
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England

Civil parish: St Thomas The Apostle
Hundred: Wonford
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: St Thomas
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Pike 30 Baker
Mary Pike 30
Geo Salter 15
Richd Richards 12
Adelina Richards 5

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 265; Book: 14; Civil Parish: St Thomas The Apostle; County: Devon; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 14; Page: 22; Line: 8; GSU roll: 241330.

In 1841 and 1851 there are two John Pikes in the St. Thomas registration district both appear to have a father named John and both appear to be born in the same year.

So that death certificate could be for either of them unless of course his occupation and wife's name tie in with that on George's birth certificate.

rootgatherer, yes that is henry's parents

coralie

Coralie say she has John's death cert - presumably his age is on it - thus her search for someone born c1812.

Just a sec.............you say, Coralie, that you have the cert of the marriage to Elizabeth Sedgemore - why, then, are you unsure of his father's details?

"georges' father John I have his death certificate, baptism, marriage cert."


I'm really puzzled, now.........

I still think that there is quite a big age gap between John and Elizabeth and I think without actually buying the certificates that are available you cannot be sure that John James Pike 1812 is George's father. With an age gap like that you could be missing a generation.