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Hi Rose,

Yes I will be doing that later in the week....... I am still trying to get my head round what you can find out with these 'puter thingies. You have started me off on another side of the family now.... I have just found another few relatives lol

Oh whilst on the subject.... what do you know about Welsh Records census Returns etc?

Thanks Again
Keven

So are you going to order the marriage cert and see if his father is Robert?

Rose

Hi Keven

the record I looked up was the birth record mention by Frank 06 from Scotland'sPeople.

Thank you so much everyone..... I really feel that I am getting closer....

This has been an unanswered question for so long now, my first post about Owen Cain was 10 years ago (on another site). I know that this is not the end, but at least it's a strong begining with something to work on!

Thanks again

Keven

1901 Scotland Census
about Mary Caine
Name: Mary Caine
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Forfar, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 459/2
Registration district: Buckhaven
Civil parish: Wemyss
Town: Methil
County: Fife
Address: 82 W High St
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 229
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1901_148
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Caine 49
William Caine 16
Anthony Caine 14
Allan Caine 12
William White 19
James Nalan 37
William Campbell 40

Rose

I think you need to order that marriage cert and see who is listed as his father.

Rose

1891 Scotland Census
about Owen Keene
Name: Owen Keene
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Robert C
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 459/2
Registration district: Buckhaven
Civil parish: Wemyss
County: Fife
Address: Newtown
Occupation: Coal Miner
ED: 7
Household schedule number: 27
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1891_141
Household Members: Name Age
Robert C Keene 42
Mary A Keene 40
Owen Keene 14
Bella D Keene 13
Robina C Keene 8
William M Keene 6
Anthony Keene 4
Allan C Keene 2

Rose

Found them!

1881 Scotland Census
about Owen Keane
Name: Owen Keane
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Forfar, Dundee
Registration Number: 447
Registration district: Markinch
Civil parish: Markinch
County: Fife
Address: Windygates
ED: 15
Household schedule number: 65
Line: 12
Roll: cssct1881_124
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Keane 26 Wales
Mary Keane 25 Forfar
Owen Keane 4
Bella Keane 3
Ellen Keane 1


Rose

Only one birth record in Scotland for Owen Cain 1870-1890

Thanks Ailenn, can I ask what type of record that was.... was it a birth record?

Thanks Frank...... Looks like I will have to buy some credits and take a look

Thanks Astra..... I have seen that record before..... It could well be him, not that far from forfar, but need to do a bit more research first to make sure.

I took a look at the above record

born August 2nd 1876...211 Overgate (now a shopping centre) Dundee......parents Robert (Tay Bridge Labourer) and Mary Ann Cain ms Milne

Parents married April 17th 1874 Dundee

Here's one from scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Pay per view site.........

£6.00 for 30 credits.
1 credit (20p) to view search results of up to 24 per page.
5 credits (£1.00) to view certificate online

No Year Surname Forename Sex District City/County/MR GROS Data Image Extract
1 1876 CAIN OWEN M ST MARY DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/02 0610 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER

There is this one who has the right birth date. Living in Scotland but born Ireland. Can't locate them after this 1881.


Owen Cain
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Owen
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 692/2
Registration district: Leith South
Civil parish: Leith South
County: Midlothian
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 41
Household schedule number: 14
Line: 16
Roll: cssct1881_299
Household Members:
Name Age
Owen Cain 34
Mary Cain 31>>>>>Born Argyleshire all others born Ireland
John Cain 10
James Cain 8
Edward Cain 6
Owen Cain 4
Mary Cain 2
Patrick Cain 4 Ms
Mary Cain 78

Could I please ask if anyone who has the availability to look up Scotish records to take a quick look for my Gt Grandfather Owen Cain.

The 1911 Census records his place of birth as "Forfar Dundee Resident " he was born about 1877, but I still don't know if he was born there or just lived there.

I would really like to confirm his place of birth and find out who his parents were and from whence they came.

Thanks in advance

Keven

Spot On !!! another bit of information I didn't have......... Where do you find all this detailed information..... or is it secret ? lol
Thanks for the help

OK back to the drawing board

Baptism of Alexander Campbell in 1902. No other baptisms registered in that area.

Address given is 145 Tyers?? Street

Alexander Campbell Caine
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 17 Dec 1902
Father's Name: Owen Caine
Mother's Name: Minnie Caine
Parish: St Peter, Vauxhall
Borough: Lambeth
County: Middlesex

Thanks Gael that discounts that one then..... I will delete him from my list.

Astra, All the children in Prestwich I have to discount
Family History:- My father (Trevor Caine b 1932) always lived with his mother Lillian (Little) and Grandmother Minnie (Rogers), first in Croydon then in Bognor Regis, he rememberd his Grandmother well, there were no other relatives born to Owen & Minnie (apart from the one that died pre 1911)
But thanks for trying..... we will get there.

There is a possibility that this is their child who died

Births Dec 1909 (>99%)
CAIN Charles Prestwich 8d 415


Deaths Dec 1909 (>99%)

CAIN Charles 0 Prestwich 8d 284

It looks like his father is George and mother Harriet

Name: James Alfred Cain
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 01 Dec 1901
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Peter and Paul, Mitcham, Surrey, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: George Cain
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Harriet
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03847-0
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 2232970
Reference Number: 408
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975