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Elizabeth Henrietta Phillips was the daughter of Henry Ernest Phillips 1870 and Hannah Phillips c1869

Dilemma!. Are they genetically related ?.

Henry Ernest's line has been tracked back to a John Phillips c1820, but we cannot move any further on Hannah.

I am researching this family on behalf of a friend who is the granddaughter of Hannah.She has some vague reference to a George Phillips 1841 who just may be Hannah's father. He was born in Dudley WarwicKshire.

Any help in this direction would be gratefully received.

Their marriage cert may have a fathers name on it for her.

Do you have it?



This one?
You dont give an area so I am guessing here.

Marriages Dec 1889
Phillips Hannah Fulham 1a 463
Phillips Henry Ernest Fulham 1a 463

FbG. No Don't know the GRO no.

Fpr Rer
1901?

Name: Hannah Phillips
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Henry E
Gender: Female
Where born: St Pancras, London, England

Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 328
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry E Phillips 31
Hannah Phillips 31
Ruth F Phillips 6
Amy I Phillips 4
Elizabeth H Phillips 2
Elsie R Phillips 1
Mary Phillips 71 Mother

Easy to find BMDs for free on this site

freebmd.org.uk

This one would match but as Fanny says you need the cert

1871

Name: George Phillips
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Dudley Port, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: Parish Church
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Somers Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 149
Household Members:
Name Age
George Phillips 30
Hannah Phillips 33
Hannah Phillips 2
William Phillips 2 months

K.

Looks like Mary 71 is the mother of Ernest rather than Hannah, as his mother was a mary Crowcher

You need the marriage cert without a doubt.

Too many Phillips to be 100% certain you dont go barking up the wrong tree............

Apologies - I forgot that I posted Hannah as the main person - Yes mother of Henry Ernest

FbG

Yes, I have found that to be case.

FbG

Have already tried Free BMD. No result

The 1991 census lists them as married 21 years so the Fulham marriage that Fanny found could be the one. I can't see any others


1911 census - household transcription
Person: PHILLIPS, Henry Ernest
Address: 12 Leverton ST


PHILLIPS, Henry Ernest Head Married M 41 1870 French Polisher St Pancras VIEW
PHILLIPS, Hannah Wife Married
21 years F 41 1870 St Pancras VIEW
PHILLIPS, Ruth Daughter Single F 16 1895 Stationary St Pancras VIEW
PHILLIPS, Amy Daughter F 14 1897 Stationary St Pancras VIEW
PHILLIPS, Elizabeth Daughter F 12 1899 St Pancras VIEW
PHILLIPS, Elsie Daughter F 10 1901 St Pancras VIEW
PHILLIPS, Henry Edward Son M 8 1903 St Pancras VIEW
PHILLIPS, Mary Daughter F 4 1907 St Pancras VIEW
PHILLIPS, Florence Daughter F 2 1909 St Pancras VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
773 Reference:
RG14PN773 RG78PN26 RD9 SD4 ED28 SN436

Registration District:
St Pancras Sub District:
North St Pancras Enumeration District:
28 Parish:
St Pancras

Address:
12 Leverton ST County:
London

FbG

Will try GRO on Monday.Thanks for that.

K.

Thanks for that also

That matches with Elizabeth's siblings

freebmd.org.uk

Is where I found the marriage refs.

It came up straight away and was the only one.

FbG

Must have had my eyes shut

Eyes Wide Shut?..:)

Possible



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Henry Ernest Phillips
Name: Henry Ernest Phillips
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 8 May 1870
Father's Name: Daniel Phillips
Mother's Name: Mary Phillips
Parish: St Mary Magdalene, St Pancras
Borough: Camden
County: Middlesex
Residence 3 Little Charles Street
father is a marble polisher

Ladt Kira,

Very possible. Henry Ernest's father was a Daniel. However my info is that his mother was a Jane Willis.
Further checking needed here.

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Hannah Eliza Phillips
Name: Hannah Eliza Phillips
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 12 Jan 1869
Father's Name: Thomas Phillips
Mother's Name: Emma Phillips
Parish: St Pancras Old Church
Borough: Camden
County: Middlesex
Residence Edward Street
father a dairy man