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Hi again I have just been sent a marriage record for JAMES BEVAN Marriages: Spouse: HANNAH KINNERSLEY Family Marriage: 03 NOV 1831 Dilwyn, Hereford, England. I wonder if this is the James I am looking for, the name Kinnersley has cropped up a few times in the family line, althought it has been spelt differently. I suppose a 1841/51 census with James and Hannah Beven would help if anyone can find it, sorry to be a pest.

thanks again
Kathy

hi Oxibird, the 1841 census looks interesting. Can you tell me if James and Hannah were born in Hereford, I know they did not give birth places in 1841, but it would say if they were born in county or not. I am not sure if you have already posted the 1851 census for the same couple, I will go back and check, if not can you see them anywhere in 1851, I know I am a pest but you really good at finding the impossible.

Thank you all so much for your help with this difficult family, I would have give up if not for all your help.

Kathy

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1841 England Census
Name: William Beavan
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Gender: Male
Where born: Herefordshire, England
Civil Parish: Burghill
Hundred: Grimsworth
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Street address: Burghill

Occupation: Ag lab

Registration district: Hereford
Sub-registration district: Burghill
Household Members: Name Age
James Beavan 30
Susanna Beavan 36
Richard Beavan 5
William Beavan 2
Sarah Beavan 5 MO


record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: William Beavan
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 29 Oct 1838
baptism/christening place: BURGHILL,HEREFORD,ENGLAND
father's name: James Beavan
mother's name: Susannah
indexing project (batch) number: C13706-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1041517

There is this:

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Henry Beavan
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 04 Sep 1835
baptism/christening place: LEOMINSTER,HEREFORD,ENGLAND
father's name: James Beavan
mother's name: Susanna
indexing project (batch) number: J14610-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 992308

But I can't find them on a census.

hi, yes I have m in the 1881 census he would have been with first family in 1871, there is one posted but I am not sure it is the right one. His first wife was called Sarah. they married in 1857. He may still of been at home with his parents in 1851/41. Father James William Bevan. If anyone can find the census please let me know. He was born Hereford so he may still be in the same area

thanks
Kathy

1881 census - household transcription
Person: BEVAN, William H
Address: 7, Court 1 House, Glover St, Aston


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BEVAN, Henry Head Married M 42 1839 General Carter
Hereford
Herefordshire VIEW
BEVAN, Mary Wife Married F 43 1838
Ashby de la Zouch
Leicestershire VIEW
BEVAN, William H Son Single M 1 1880
Birmm
Warwickshire VIEW

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Hi Jaz, thanks for the info. I know it looks like the right man but I am confused. The Henry Bevan I have been following was remarried in 1877, they only had one son I know of, William Henry Bevan, he married Jessie Bloomer, so I have they line I think belongs to me. On his second marriage he said he was a widower, he gave his age as 38, making his birth 1839c, his father was James William(s) Bevan.

As his father named was on cert James William(s) Bevan. I think I need to find a census with his parents James he will also be on there named poss Henry, birth 1839c
So if anyone can help please do
Kathy

1891

Name: Ann Sophia Henman
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Job Henman
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Bordesley
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Job Henman 28
Ann Sophia Henman 27
George Beban 20

records Help & Advice 1881 census - household transcription
Person: BEVAN, Ann Sophia
Address: 41, Lawley St, Aston


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BEVAN, Henry Head Widower M 47 1834 Brass Tap Dresser
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
BEVAN, Ann Sophia Daughter Single F 20 1861 Stationery Sev
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
BEVAN, George Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
TURNER, Sarah Ann Boarder Single F 42 1839
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
TURNER, John Boarder Single M 44 1837 Nail Caster
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW

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poss Georges birth just before his mother died

Births Jun 1871 (>99%)
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BEVAN George Aston 6d 284

hi I have just found the birth and marriage of the daughter Ann Sophia Bevan, she did not seem to live with her father, can anyone find her in 1881, also I have the marriage record but not sure who she married, can anyone work it out please, here are the records.

ANN SOPHIA BEVANS

08 DEC 1860 Saint James The Less, Ashted, Warwick, England

Father: HENRY BEVANS
Mother: SARAH

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Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
Beasley Matilda Aston 6d 431
BEVAN Ann Sophia Aston 6d 431
Henman Job Aston 6d 431
Shin Joseph Aston 6d 431

Thanks

Hi, can anyone take a look at the above 1871 census and let me know the place of birth for Sarah Bevan, she gives her age a 33, if I can find the area she was born i can look for her birth.
Thanks
Kathy

Well Ozibird I think I could still do with a helping hand, ha ha, you know I am not as clever as you, I dont know how you manage to find people that dont seem to have existed.

Cheers and a happy new year
Kathy

Hello Kathleen,

Thanks for the update. You're getting on with this branch really well.

Ozi

Marriages Mar 1857 (>99%)
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Bevan Richard W Bromwich 6b 720
Colclough Sarah W Bromwich 6b 720
Osmond Robert W. Bromwich 6b 720
Pugh Eliza W. Bromwick 6b 720

1871

Name: Ann Sophia Bevan
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Henry Bevan
Mother's name: Sarah Bevan
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Duddeston Cum Nechells
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 152
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Bevan 38
Sarah Bevan 33
Ann Sophia Bevan 10

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Dec 1871 (>99%)
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Bevan Sarah 30 Aston 6d 203

Hi, well the marriage cert for 'Richard Henry Williams Kynnessly bevan arrived today. Anyone following this man will know he was named as Henry Bevan in 1881/91/1911 census, which I have. He married Mary Byard in 1877. They married in Warwick Birmingham. He was a widower age 38, making his birth year 1839c.. His fathers name was James Williams Bevan, he wags a Wagener, his son Labourer. Both Richard and his wife were said to be living at St Martin Street no 30.

So he was a widower, how do I find his first marriage? he does not have children living with him from his first marriage so I dont know if they had any. What I need is also to find him in earlier census with his first wife or even his parents. I have a lot of census but none nameing a father called James Williams Bevan, who was not declared as deceased at his second marriage. I have looked on the LDS 1881 census but cant find his father in England, so where was he?

Can anyone find anything that would help me go further back, I dont know what to do next.

Thanks
Kathy

Nudge

Hi, what I have just received is William Henry Bevan Marriage cert, he is the one who married Jessie Bloomer. The birth cert I have for him was the wrong one, still not sure about which one I should send for, why cant the GRO do parent checks now!!

It looks like his father's name changed to Henry in Census, and if the marriage ref you have just posted is his he was Richard!!! What a missed up jumble. I am not sure where the Bloomers were, I will go and check my records, but if anyone can shed any light on the ever changing name please get in touch, as always any help welcome
Kathy

You are saying that on William's birth cert his father is William Henry Richard Kynessley Bevan. Yet his marriage index is:
Marriages Mar 1877
Bevan Richard Henry W K Birmingham 6d 68


That makes it tricky as there's a lot of Bevan/variants in Herefordshire.

Ozi

Weren't the Bloomers from the Weobley area?

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IGI Individual Record
RICHARD BEVAN
Christening: 14 AUG 1836 Weobley, Hereford, England
Parents:
Father: JAMES BEVAN
Mother: SARAH

Source Information:
Batch No.: C139741
Date: 1635 - 1875

oh glory be, well I guess that means you might need that marriage cert ?