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London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Emma Emily Chater
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Spouse Name: James Ernest Adams
Spouse Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 21 Feb 1892
Parish: St Nicholas, Plumstead
County: Kent
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: Edward Chater
Spouse Father Name: James Adams

from image:-

James
Bachelor
Age 26
Occupation:- Decorator
Address:- 68 Reidhaven Road
Father:- deceased. Painter

Emma
Spinster
Age:- 22
no occupation given
Address:- as for James
Father:- Labourer

Witnesses:- Alfred Walsh and Mary Ann Walsh





sylvia

Hiya, sorry I meant adams, not sure where that typo came from!

Francis, their daughter was Francis May Adams. I think a copy and paste went a bit wrong!

????????? James Ernest in 1891

1891 Census

Name: James Ernest Adams
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Francis Adams
Gender: Male
Where born: Charlton, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Plumstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Woolwich
Sub-registration district: Plumstead, East

Francis Adams 47 b.ca 1844, Great Yarmouth, Widow
James Ernest Adams 25 Labourer Arsenal Factory
William Edward 15 b.ca 1876, Great Yarmouth, Shop Assistant
Susanna Edith Edward 12 b.ca 1879, Great Yarmouth
James William Denger 66 Lodger, Retired R Navy

Address:- 68 Reidhann (?? spelling) Rd


William and Susanna should be William Edward Adams and Susanna Edith Adams .... it was a transcripiton error that omitted the Adams, and I've sent in the corrections.



sylvia

don't whether this will be fo interest

marriage of Susanna Edith Adams, possibly the sister of James Edward, if that census is correct.



London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Susanna Edith Adams
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Spouse Name: Robert Ernest Carrier
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 27 Jun 1896
Parish: St Nicholas, Plumstead
County: Kent
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: James Adams
Spouse Father Name: Robert John Carrier


from image:-

Susanna
Spinster
Age 18
Address:- 36 Kashgar Rd
no occupation shown
Father:- deceased, Painter

Robert
Bachelor
Age 21
Address:- same as Susanna
Occupation:- Brazier
Father:- Sawyer

Witnesses:- William Edward Adams and Mary Ann Adams



sylvia

I couldn't find births for Susanna(h) nor William Edward under Adams, so I went looking for a William Edward birth (no surname)

I found the following one for William Edward Bultitude

Births Sep 1876 (>99%)

BULTITUDE William Edward Yarmouth 4b 21


then I looked for Bultitude born 1873 +/ 10 years and found this 1881 Census

1881 Census

Name: James E. Bultitude
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's name: James Bultitude
Mother's name: Frances Bultitude
Gender: Male
Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address: Victoria Street Francis Buildings

Occupation: Porter Grocers

Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Northern

James Bultitude 43 b.ca 1838, Yarmouth, House Painter
Frances Bultitude 37 b.ca 1844, Yarmouth
Agnes Bultitude 17 b.ca 1864, Yarmouth
James E. Bultitude 15
Mary A. Bultitude 11 b.ca 1870, Yarmouth, Scholar
Susannah Bultitude 2 b.ca 1879, Yarmouth
William Bultitude 5 b.ca 1876, Yarmouth, Scholar




Then I went looking for a marriage, and found this one ............... suspicious eh!


Marriages Dec 1859 (>99%)

Boyce Frances Newstead Yarmouth 4b 5
Boyce Frances Newsted Yarmouth 4b 5
Bultitude James Adam Yarmouth 4b 5




Could Adam have been his middle name, and he just dropped his surname for some reason???????




sylvia

????????? James in 1851????


1851 Census

Name: James Bultitude
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Son-in-Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Blundeston, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Blundeston
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Registration district: Mutford
Sub-registration district: Kessingland

James Brown 39
Susan Brown 37
George Bultitude 16
James Bultitude 14
Robert Jex 55
Charles Brown 4


?????? marriage of James Brown and Susan

Marriages Dec 1849 (>99%)

Browne James Gt Yarmouth 13 959
Bultitude Susan Gt. Yarmouth 13 959



from beta.familysearch.org

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: James Browne
bride's name: Susan Bultitude
marriage date: 1849
marriage place: St. Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
groom's father's name: James Browne
bride's father's name: John Bultitude
indexing project (batch) number: M16315-5
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1526457




only a suggestion, may be /very possibly is, incorrect!!!




sylvia

I wonder if this is Charles Brown, age 4 on that 1851 Census

It's from a Public Family Tree on ancestry. It says his father is William Bultitude (d. 1842), no name for mother. His siblings are shown as George Bultitude (1835 – ) and James Bultitude (1837 – ), and one of his children is called James Brown Bultittude


Charles William Bultitude
Birth
18/5/1847
Blundeston Suffolk England

Death
6/5/1888
Sunderland, Durham, England





gawd this is a family and a half!!!!




sylvia

Found Susan with George and James on the 1841 Census .. but they have been indexed individually!

I have sent in an alternative name change


1841 Census

Name: Susan Bultiterde <<<<< Bultitude on the image
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Blundeston
Hundred: Mutford and Lothingland
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Registration district: Mutford
Sub-registration district: Lowestoft

Susan Bultiterde 25 Ag Lab
George Bultiterde 6 b.ca 1835, Suffolk
James Bultiterde 4 b.ca 1837, Suffolk

Address:- Blundeston North End




sylvia

Omg I think you have found the bultitude part!
my great aunt insists that the family name was a hyphenated one being bultitude-Adams but that as bultitude was German and Adams was Jewish, the bultitude part was dropped.

I think you've found when this happened. amazing!

So it looks like the name never was double barrelled one and that they used James middle name Adam to drop the bultitude part then. That is fascinating. I wonder why though, could this have been a census error?

It looks like the change happened between 1881 and 1891.

Well done Sylvia.
I started looking last night but fell asleep.

Ok, just gone to add on my tree and I'm really confused.
So James (abt 1838) brother was George (abt 1835) and James Browne (abt 1812) was his father who married Susan Bultitude. But why does it then say son in law?

or had Susan married previously to a Mr Bultitude who died and she then married James Browne hence why there are older Bultitude children and a younger Browne child.

Charles William Bultitude wouldn't be old enough to be the father and Susan's father was Bultitude?

Okay now I an very confused
:-D

Ruth

James and George were the children of Susan Bultitude

Susan Bultitude later married James Brown(e), and the boys became his step-children ..... only in those days they were more commonly called sons-in-law (or daughters-in-law, of course!).


So far as I can see ............... Susan was not married when she had the children .... she does say that John Bultitude was her father's name on that marriage information from beta.familysearch.org


but that may change if we do more digging in the parish registers.



I did have a look for the baptisms of James and George last night, but didn't see anything.



I do quite honestly think your great aunt has got the "facts" wrong.


Bultitude seems to be a name that was around in parts of England from at least 1800 ....... and it does not sound in the slightest German to me!


and I doubt that Adams is necessarily a Jewish name either!


It may well be impossible to determine why the Bultitude name was dropped ..................... it could be due to all kinds of things.


even something as simple as it was too difficult to spell correctly, especially when many people were illiterate!



sylvia

I quite agree with you. We just couldn't work it out but the marriage and the name James Adam Bultitude kind of gives the big clue.

1871 Address: Row, Great Yarmouth, Yarmouth
BULTITUDE, James Head M 61 1810 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Mary A Wife F 56 1815 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, James Son M 37 1834 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Frances Daughter-In-Law F 32 1839 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Agnes Daughter F 7 1864 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Ernest Son M 5 1866 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Mary A Daughter F 0 1871 Norfolk

1841 census - household transcription
Person: BULTITUDE, James
Address: Row, Great Yarmouth, St George
BULTITUDE, James M 30 1811 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Mary F 25 1816 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, James M 8 1833 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Mary F 6 1835 Norfolk

1851Address: 142, Row, Nelson Ward, Great Yarmouth
BULTITUDE, James Head Married M 42 1809 Labourer Ashby Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Mary Wife Married F 37 1814 Yarmouth Norfolk
BULTITUDE, James Son Unmarried M 19 1832 Painter Yarmouth Norfolk

1861 Person: BUTTITUDE, Frances
Address: 18, Row 142, St Nicholas, Yarmouth
BUTTITUDE, James Head Married M 27 1834 Painter
Yarmouth Norfolk
BUTTITUDE, Frances Wife Married F 21 1840 Painters Wife Yarmouth Norfolk

1861 census - household transcription
Person: BUTTITUDE, James
Address: 109, Gaol Street, St Nicholas, Yarmouth
BUTTITUDE, James Head Married M 50 1811 Coal Heaver
Ashby
Norfolk BUTTITUDE, May Ann Wife Married F 47 1814 Coal Heavers Wife
Yarmouth Norfolk
BUTTITUDE, May Ann Daughter Unmarried F 16 1845 Dressmaker
Yarmouth Norfolk

James and Susannah may be reated but I think James and Mary is your line

Sorry Sylvia

need the marriage next

will put a summary in next post