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I have found the marriage of Thomas Howlett Warren to Elizabeth Stringer (1738) in Kew in 1759, I think they had 1 son Thomas Howlett (1767) who married Lucy Tidmarsh (1765) I don't know when they married but they had 4 children. One of whom Joseph had a grandchild also called Thomas Howlett Warren, but their seems to be a 2 generation gap without the name.
The name Thomas Howlett Warren also appears as a 74 year old South African in the Boar War, and I can follow that line to present day, but we don't know when it started. There must be some connection with my 1734 TH but I don't know what? I'd like to find out more about 1734 TH, how many children he had etc. but I'm stuck and could do with some suggestions. Please

sorry looked found nothing

hi

found this on ancestry london records
Thomas Howlett Warren bap 8/9/1793 born 11/8 parents Thomas Howlett and Lucy
St Marylebone, Westminster

Thats the only Thomas Howlett Warren I could find. Expect you might already know this

Ann

Thank you both for looking, Anne it looks like you've found our missing link, I thought there must have been a Thomas Howlett in that generation, but we couldn't find him anywhere. Thank you, now to find out where he went, I think he must be the South African one.

Thomas & Lucy's marriage:

Name: Lucy Tidmarsh
Spouse Name: Thomas Howlett Warren
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 28 Nov 1792
Parish: St Marylebone
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster

Married by license. Witnesses Thomas Bird & Sarah Lacklan.

A tree on Ancestry says that Thomas Howlett Warren born 1731 was son of George Warren & Elizabeth Howlett.

He married Elizabeth Stringer and had son Thomas Howlett Warren born 1760 and married Lucy Tidmarsh.

They had son Thomas Howlett Warren born 17 Aug. 1793 and died 13 Aug. 1888, Eastern Cape, South Africa. he married Maria Theresa Olivier and had 6 children.

Anne,

By any chance did any of your Warren Family have a Zachariah born c 1800 - 1805. He married a Mary Brown and was a bookbinder & stationer in London Street, London.

Vanessa

That really is great new, thank you all. Now I only need to find out when George and Elizabeth were born and when they married, thank you

Oh and Vanessa, no we've never had a Zachariah in the family.

And can anyone give me advice how to trace people born in South Africa since, I know there was a Thomas Howlett born around 1828 and there has been one every generation since, the last being born on 4th October 1979, Unfortunately I can't find the TH's dates of birth that go in between.

THOMAS HOWLETT WARREN Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 31 OCT 1861

Christening: 16 MAR 1862 King William'S Town, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
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Parents:
Father: CHARLES HOWLETT WARREN Family
Mother: MARY

THOMAS WARREN Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 21 OCT 1861
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Parents:
Father: THOMAS WARREN Family
Mother: MARY ELLIOTT
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Other Event(s):
Adult Christening: 04 APR 1889 King William'S Town, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

Husband
Thomas Edward Warren Pedigree

Birth: About 1876 Cradock, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
Christening:
Marriage: About 1902 Cradock, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
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Wife
Mary Agatha Mc Guire Pedigree

Birth: 02 FEB 1879 Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
Christening:
Marriage: About 1902 Cradock, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
Death: 08 FEB 1943

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International Genealogical Index - Africa
101. Agneta Beatrice Warren - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Female Birth: 09 DEC 1883 Oudtshoorn, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

102. Agnes Warren - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Female Death: , , South Africa

103. Albert Herbert Warren - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Male Marriage: 14 APR 1903 Stutterheim,Eastern, , Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

104. Alexander John Watt Warren - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Male Birth: 25 MAY 1878 Oudtshoorn, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

105. ALFRED WARREN - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Male Birth: 16 JAN 1865 Kidd'S Beach, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

106. Alfred John Warren - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Male Birth: About 1885 , , South Africa

107. Alfred Warren - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Male Marriage: 17 APR 1890 King William Town,Cape Of G H, , , South Africa

108. ALFRED WARREN - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Male Marriage: 17 APR 1890 King William'S Town, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

109. ALICE OLIVIA HARRIET WARREN - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Female Christening: 14 NOV 1872 King William'S Town, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

110. Alice Edith WARREN - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Female Birth: 1883 , Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

111. Amelia Jessie Warren - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Female Birth: About 1870

112. AMELIA JESSIE WARREN - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Female Marriage: 17 APR 1890 King William'S Town, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

113. ANASTASIA DAINES WARREN - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Female Christening: 18 FEB 1866 King William'S Town, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

114. ANNE MARIA WARREN - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Female Birth: About 1847 , Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

115. ANNIE MARIA WARREN - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Female Marriage: 16 JUL 1877 Grahamstown, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

116. Arthur Warren - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Male Marriage: 1638 Weymouth,Massachusetts,Bay, , Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

117. Arthur Stanley Warren - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Male Birth: 02 JUN 1907 Cape Town, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

118. BEATRICE ANNE CHARLOTTE WARREN - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Female Christening: 30 OCT 1874 King William'S Town, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

119. BERTHA ELIZABETH WARREN - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Female Christening: 07 NOV 1869 King William'S Town, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

120. Brean Warren - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Male Birth: 24 NOV 1929 , , South Africa

121. Caroline Marie Warren - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Female Birth: About 1887 , , South Africa

122. Cecilia Dora WARREN - International Genealogical Index / AF
Gender: Female Birth: 17 FEB 1886 , Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

Matches: International Genealogical Index/Africa - over 22

ANASTASIA DAINES WARREN Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth: 27 OCT 1865

Christening: 18 FEB 1866 King William'S Town, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
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Parents:
Father: JAMES WARREN Family
Mother: MARY ANN

ALICE OLIVIA HARRIET WARREN Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth: 07 JUL 1871

Christening: 14 NOV 1872 King William'S Town, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM JOSEPH WARREN Family
Mother: JANE

BEATRICE ANNE CHARLOTTE WARREN Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth: 08 AUG 1874

Christening: 30 OCT 1874 King William'S Town, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM JOSEPH WARREN Family
Mother: JANE

BERTHA ELIZABETH WARREN Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth: 27 AUG 1869

Christening: 07 NOV 1869 King William'S Town, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
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Parents:
Father: THOMAS HOWLETT WARREN Family
Mother: MARY

Husband
JOHN JOSEPH WARREN Pedigree

Birth: AUG 1814
Christening:
Marriage: About 1840 , Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
Death: 30 JUN 1890

Father: JOSEPH WARREN Family
Mother: MARY RUSSELL
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Wife
MRS. JOHN JOSEPH WARREN Pedigree

Birth: About 1819 , , England
Christening:
Marriage: About 1840 , Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

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Children
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1. MARY WARREN Pedigree
Female

Birth: About 1841 , Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
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2. EMMA WARREN Pedigree
Female

Birth: About 1843 , Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
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3. COMLEY WARREN Pedigree
Male

Birth: About 1845 , Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
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4. ANNE MARIA WARREN Pedigree
Female

Birth: About 1847 , Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
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5. HENRIETTA WARREN Pedigree
Female

Birth: About 1849 , Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
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6. CLARA WARREN Pedigree
Female

Birth: About 1851 , Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
Christening:

Husband
ALFRED WARREN Pedigree

Marriage: 17 APR 1890 King William'S Town, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
Death: 24 FEB 1940

Father: ROBERT WARREN Family
Mother: EMMA JANE HARTY
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Wife
AMELIA JESSIE WARREN Pedigree

Marriage: 17 APR 1890 King William'S Town, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

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Husband
William WARREN Pedigree

Birth: About 1860 Of, Grahamstown, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
Christening:
Marriage: 1882 Of, Grahamstown, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
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Wife
Edith Mrs WARREN Pedigree

Birth: About 1862 Of, Grahamstown, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
Christening:
Marriage: 1882 Of, Grahamstown, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
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Children
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1. Alice Edith WARREN Pedigree
Female

Birth: 1883 , Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
Christening: 21 OCT 1887 Grahamstown, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
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2. Maud Maria WARREN Pedigree
Female

Birth: APR 1885 , Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
Christening: 21 OCT 1887 Grahamstown, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
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3. Cecilia Dora WARREN Pedigree
Female

Birth: 17 FEB 1886 , Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
Christening: 21 OCT 1887 Grahamstown, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa

Husband
Ebenezer Cornelius Warren Pedigree
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Wife
Agnes Stewart Pedigree
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Children
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1. Agnes Warren Pedigree
Female

Birth: About 1881 , London, England
Death: , , South Africa
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2. Alfred John Warren Pedigree
Male

Birth: About 1885 , , South Africa

Death: , , South Africa
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3. Caroline Marie Warren Pedigree
Female

Birth: About 1887 , , South Africa

Death: , , South Africa