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Does anybody have access to the 1916 Canadian census looking for Frederick & Louise Bray arrived in Canada 01-03-1913 they were heading for Hamilton Ontario could be children Molly & Louise

Hi Trevor
The Help Clinic has actually closed now but I think we can still work on the threads that were open at the time. I think I looked for Thomas Bray's parents at the time but couldn't locate them but I will take another look for you. The problem is that he gives his birth place as Truro and I can't find a baptism located anywhere near there.

can i reopen this search for Thomas Bray's parents names the 1851 census results above are correct

i believe the Empress of Ireland is them in 1901 there was a Loisa Turner living in the same house hold did he marry her he was a carpenter then but what happend to the two children

Sorry, Trevor, I'm really confusing the issue on this one!

Is this their marriage?

Marriages Jun 1910 (>99%)
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Bray Frederick Thomas Wandsworth 1d 828
Carter Louise Muriel M Wandsworth 1d 828

Could this be Frederick & Louisa on the 1911 census in Canada?

Bray Frederick M Head M Jan 1883 28
Bray Louise? F Wife M Dec 1882 28

They're in Wentworth, Ontario, both born England and emigrated 1907.

Do not think this is him his wife was defnitely called louise and there were two children

How about this one?

Name: Frederick Bray
Gender: Male
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 1 Mar 1913
Vessel: Empress of Ireland
Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of Ireland' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: St.John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4827

He has a wife Louisa with him. No children though. Fred says he had been in Canada before between 1906 to 1912. he was an electrician heading to Hamilton, Ontario.

Fred's arrival in Canada?

Name: Frederick Bray
Arrival Date: 9 Sep 1911
Age: 29
Birth Date: abt 1882
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English

Ship Name: Ascania
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Southampton, England

Not sure about this one, he's heading to Ironwood, Michigan. His wife is K. Bray, Bosveal, Cornwall.

Now trying to find out about Frederick Bray born circa1882 Fred his wife Louise and two children Molly and Louise emigrated to Canada about 1918 I cannot find them on any passenger lists they were going to settle in Ontario

yes i now think you are right many thank's

The 1891 census doesn't say born Avon, it says Not Known.

But the marriage was 1830, first child born 1831.
1851 census also says son Thomas born London.

TO MARGARET'
YOU ARE CORRECT 1881 CENSUS SAID SON THOMAS BORN PADDINGTON 1891 CENSUS SAYS THOMAS WAS BORN IN AVON

NO THE CENSUS IS SPOT ON BUT I DO NOT THINK THE MARRIAGE IS

WOULD THEY HAVE HAD ALL THOSE CHILDREN BEFORE MARRIAGE

You said that was him on the 1881 census and it shows son Thomas was born Paddington.

As for whether or not Susanna's name had an h at the end means nothing. Remember most people couldn't read or write then, spelling was not important.

Are you saying that the 1851 census that was posted is not your family? Thomas was born Cornwall, Susanna Devonshire, children Thomas & Harriet born London, Ellen & Emma Cornwall, Sophie Lambeth, Henry & Louisa Paddington

Hi'
Ido not think this is the marriage Thomas jnr was born in Avon near bristol and Susannah came from Mary Taivy in Devon all the records spell her name with an H on the end

Birthdates of the 3 children who were baptised 7 Sep. 1834

Catherine Ann 6 Aug. 1834
Harriet 26 Dec. 1832
Thomas 21 Aug. 1831