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speaking for what I found, I thought it would be good to see whether there were any other Applebys living in England who were born in Egypt so I did a search (free) of the 1911 census just for Appleby born in Egypt

........ and then when I found Gordon Stewart Appleby I searched for any Appleby living with him and found his wife

........ and then I searched for his marriage

and it was coincidence that he had a son with the same name as Jonathan born about the same time, so I had already seen the Gordon Appleby born in Kent and it seems more likely he was son of Gordon Stewart Appleby than of Jonathan.

I forgot to look for Gordon Stewart Appleby in 1901, lol, so LadyKira did that. And she googled probably things like Appleby Alexandria and found the information about their business.

I hope you get the marriage certificate for Gordon Stewart Appleby because it really is a possibility that he is Jonathan's brother I think, especially since Jonathan had a son named Gordon. The certificate won't prove that but it will give you more information to investigate such as the older Gordon's father's name and occupation.

and another tip is not to have two threads about the same thing, just put another message in the thread you have to ask for more help.

chrissie x

Thank you to everyone who has gone out of their way to help me, it is greatly appreciated.
Im not very good at this lark so can anyone give me any tips on how I can get the info like you have?
Nicki x

errrr is this you nicola or another nicola

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/appleby/thread/1208831

JOHNATHON KID APPLEBY.

ok so have looked at so many applys my eyes are swiiming.
will call it a night now.

I posted Gordon Stewart Applebys death on page 1

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Gordon S Appleby Name: Gordon S Appleby
Death Registration Month/Year: 1922
Age at death (estimated): 39
Registration district: Medway
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 696

it may not be connected but certainly took my eye

I skimmed it too quickly the first time .....


To a very large extent, Appleby Bros was the organisation which fathered the modern crane industry. Henry Coles became their Assistant Manager in 1875, succeeding Alexander Grafton, who was appointed Appleby's permanent engineer in Egypt, and who later started his own crane making business in London. Other Appleby protégés did the same thing, although only Henry Coles' company remains to this day.


what we need is for Nicola to read these things I think .............

1911 census - household transcription
Person: APPLEBY, Gordon Stewart
Address: 109 Skinner St Gillingham
APPLEBY, Gordon Stewart Head Married M 27 1884 Engineer Marine Egypt Alexandria VIEW
APPLEBY, Margaret Ann Wife Married
1 years F 25 1886 Tailoress Northumberland Newcastle

LadyKira I read the link but I didn't know what it was for, it was about Applebys who were iron founders I think, ?

.............. or, was it steam engines and our Appleby findings have come together then, lol ?

I went to do that 1901 search and got distracted by my inbox i think, lol

Marriages Dec 1888
APPLEBY Jane Gateshead 10a 1126
ARMSTRONG John Thomas Gateshead 10a 1126
HOLMES Simeon Gateshead 10a 1126
SMITH Annie Gateshead 10a 1126

in 1901 Jane is said to be born in Gateshead

did anyone read my link?

fmp version

1901 census - household transcription
Person: APPLEBY, Gordon S
Address: 29, Forster Street, Gateshead
ARMSTRONG, John T Head Married M 35 1866 Steam Engine Maker Turner
Gateshead
Durham
ARMSTRONG, Jane Wife Married F 37 1864
Gateshead
Durham
ARMSTRONG, Lily C Daughter Single F 10 1891
Gateshead
Durham
ARMSTRONG, Evelyn M Daughter Single F 7 1894
Gateshead
Durham
ARMSTRONG, Edith Daughter Single F 5 1896
Gateshead
Durham
APPLEBY, Gordon S Brother-In-Law Single M 17 1884 Steam Engine Maker Appren
Egypt Brit Subj

1901 England Census
about Gordon S Appleby Name: Gordon S Appleby
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation: Brother-in-Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Brit Subj, Egypt

Civil Parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members: Name Age
John T Armstrong 35
Jane Armstrong 37
Lily C Armstrong 10
Evelyn M Armstrong 7
Edith Armstrong 5
Gordon S Appleby 17

i think the next step is to order the marriage certifiate of Gordon Stewart Appleby, lol

with a good dose of luck it could be that Jonathan Appleby wasnt just his brother, he was a witness !

i think your next step is to try som electoral roll for 24 harpenden high street.

just following my Gordon Stewart Appleby ...................

Name: Gordon S Appleby
Death Registration Month/Year: 1922
Age at death (estimated): 39
Registration district: Medway
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 696


here is gordon son of Jonathan and Florence

Name: Gordon Harborn Appleby
Birth Date: 12 Aug 1911
Death Registration Month/Year: Feb 1994
Age at death (estimated): 82
Registration district: Luton
Inferred County: Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire
Register number: B45F
District and Subdistrict: 3151B
Entry number: 130

but his birth does not seem to be registered in England still

edit oops Ladykira already posted that

and Henry son of Jonathan and florence

Name: Henry George Appleby
Birth Date: 6 Feb 1910
Death Registration Month/Year: 1979
Registration district: St Albans
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 10
Page: 0575

just for ref

chrissie x

read this and tell me what you think

http://www.cranepart.co.uk/coles_1_a

3 children, Florence 1906 who was born in Egypt, Henry 1910 and Gordon 1911 who were born in Harpenden, Herts.

Births Jun 1911 ???
Appleby Gordon A Medway 2a 770

the only Gordon Appleby between 1909 and 1915, maybe he also was born outside England?

Births Mar 1910
APPLEBY Henry George St. Albans 3a 782


possibly intresting ... in 1911 this person wasa born in Alexandria Egypt ...

APPLEBY GORDON STEWART M 1884 27 Medway Kent
living with
APPLEBY MARGARET ANN F 1886 25 Medway Kent

I think very interesting because I would guess this is a brother and this could be of some use !

chrissie x


edit even better he did marry in England

Marriages Dec 1910
Appleby Gordon S Gateshead 10a 1521 <<<<<
Bramwell Sarah R Gateshead 10a 1521
RUTHERFORD Margaret A Gateshead 10a 1521 <<<<<
Sowerby John A Gateshead 10a 1521

..... if that is him ..... maybe not but I think it has to be ... if it is it would give a father's name who could be the right father for your Jonathan <<<<<

no births to that marraige it seems .... oh but of course, the Gordon born i in Medway in 1910 is probably one

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Gordon H Appleby Name: Gordon H Appleby
Birth Date: abt 1913
Age: 21
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 26 Jan 1934
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Sydney
[Melbourne]
[Adelaide]
[Colombo]
[Bombay]
Ship Name: Narkunda
Search Ship Database: View the 'Narkunda' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 142496

he came in as a second class passenger as a student proposing to stay in england and it was 24 harpenden high street