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My great grandmother was Mary Ann Huggett. She was from the Croydon area but married John Hellawell Shaw from Huddersfield. She was born in 1842 to Sarah Wood and William Huggett, Sarah's previous husband was George Hodder. William and Sarah had the Jolly Bleachers pub in Croydon but I can't find Mary Ann in any of the censuses. Also William Huggett is a mystery - some researches have him son of William c1773 but they also say he married Susannah which is unlikely as he would appear in two 1851 census.

Could anyone help me unravel this.

Best Regards Harold Hellawell Bower

William Huggett

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: East Grinstead, Sussex, England
parents: Jn'O Huggett, Sarah

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: William Huggett
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 01 Nov 1812
baptism/christening place: East Grinstead, Sussex, England
father's name: Jn'O Huggett
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: I03098-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1041580

William Huggett

England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991

record title: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
name: William Huggett
gender: Male
burial date: 10 Jun 1810
burial place: East Grinstead, Sussex, England
indexing project (batch) number: I03098-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1041580

William Huggett

England Marriages, 1538–1973
spouse: Elisabeth Todman
marriage: 02 Apr 1809 — East Grinstead, Sussex, England

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: William Huggett
bride's name: Elisabeth Todman
marriage date: 02 Apr 1809
marriage place: East Grinstead, Sussex, England
indexing project (batch) number: I03098-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1041580

Mary Huggett

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Sussex, England
parents: William Huggett, Sarah

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Mary Huggett
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 28 Mar 1810
baptism/christening place: EAST GRINSTEAD,SUSSEX,ENGLAND
father's name: William Huggett
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: C07056-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number:

John Hellawel Shaw

England and Wales Census, 1851
birth: Linthwaite, Yorkshire

record title: England and Wales Census, 1851
name: John Hellawel Shaw
age: 7
gender: M
birthplace: Linthwaite, Yorkshire
relationship to head of household: Son
record type:

John H. Shaw

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1848 — Huddersfield, York, England
residence: Lockwood, York, England
spouse: Charlotte Shaw

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: John H. Shaw
age: 33
gender: Male
birth year: 1848
birthplace: Huddersfield, York, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession / occupation: Smith
address: Folly Hall
census place: Lockwood, York, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342048
the national archives reference: RG11
piece / folio: 4387 / 23
page number: 40

Thanks Ann of Green Gables. I don't think that is my Mary - I have a photo of her and I know she was born about 1842. The William could be the one born in 1812 and I did suspect his father was John and not William

William Huggett

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
spouse: Sarah

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: George Campbell Huggett
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 14 Apr 1817
baptism/christening place: East Grinstead, Sussex, England
father's name: William Huggett
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: I03098-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1041580

John Hellawell Shaw is correct - notice I was also given Hellawell as a middle name both after Elizabeth Hellawell born 1792.

But where is Mary Ann. Family folklore has it that she was a Lady in Waiting in the Croydon area - but took her duties a bit too seriously (with the Lord) and had a a baby
John Hellawell rescued her, whisked her back to Yorkshire, and made an honest woman of her.

There is no marriage listed for Mary Ann Huggett and John Hellawell Shaw so I would say either Ive missed it or they didnt marry?

As Mary is not on any censuses then this could be her death?




Deaths Dec 1847 (>99%)
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Huggett Mary Ann Croydon 4 107

There is this?

1901 England Census
about John Hellawell Shaw
Name: John Hellawell Shaw
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann Shaw
Father's name: James Shaw
Gender: Male
Where born: Longwood, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Golcar
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Golcar
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
John Hellawell Shaw 58
Mary Ann Shaw 51 Croydon
Mary Louisa Shaw 14
James Shaw 81

It doesnt mean that they were married though!

Yes Ginny, that's our lot and Mary Louisa is my grandmother. I am suprised thay did not marry but I have to accept it. She had another son Alfred ( illigitimate presumable via the Lord - see above).

Still does not explain where she is in 1851 & 1861 census before liaison with John Hellawell

Im really not convinced about Mary Ann Huggett? She is not with the family and nowhere to be seen on the censuses

Do you have the birth certificate of Mary Louis Shaw? If not then you need to get that to identify Mary Anns maiden name



1851 England Census
about William Huggett
Name: William Huggett
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1810
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah Huggett
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Eastgrinsted, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Croydon
Town: Croydon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 167
Household Members: Name Age
William Huggett 41
Sarah Huggett 39
James Hodder 20
Charles Hodder 14
Frances Hodder 12
Charlott Huggett 6
Jane Huggett 4
William Huggett 1 MO
Sarah Cooper 3 Grandaughter

Hi Ginny, yes that is a puzzle but other evidence is overwhelming. Stories passed down about the ladies maid from the Croydon area for example. Plus the Wood connection. I have a bible given to Dad by a William Wood and he must be Sarah Wood's brother or nephew. And the name Huggett clicked in my sister's memory

Best Regards Harry Bower

The thing is with stories and memories is they get a bit distorted

If you want to go any further with Mary Ann you have to get the birth certifcate of her daughter

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okay, will do

Births Dec 1886 (>99%)
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Shaw Mary Louise Huddersfield 9a 342



Come back when you have the details and we can take it from there

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Harry

What info have got on Alfred, Mary Anns illegitimate son?

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Hi Ginny, he died in the war - my grandmother reverred him as an older brother (b1869) - thinking about it, that makes Mary Ann quite old when she had him and even older with my grandma. I was only 9 when she died so never really got to talk to her properly