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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Feb 2011 16:35

Have you noticed on the 1911, the Mother and Father in laws surname is Allen. But that could perhaps be the in laws from possibly Thomas Goldings first marriage.

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

Clair

Clair Report 21 Feb 2011 16:32

thnx ladies.....got maiden name, just couldn't think of a second 'm'!!

thnx safc...shouldnt there be even number of ppl in the marriage records instead of five?? lol Hopefully, Robert Tulett married Ellen Knapp....that would make sense from everything else everyone has found!
Trust my relation to have a name like Tullett that turns into Tullet, Tulett, Jullett & Tulip :-s

safc

safc Report 21 Feb 2011 16:29

????
dont know who married who here

Marriages Dec 1882 (>99%)
COLE Emily Laura Bromley 2a 635
HANSCOMB John Kingston 2a 635
HONE John Bromley 2a 635
Knapp Ellen Bromley 2a 635
Tulett Robert Bromley 2a 635

Researching:
Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Feb 2011 16:28

Sorry............Mothers Maiden Name'

On the 1901 for Hellen Dence, the enumerator probably missheard Ellen for Hellen.........
On the original image, Thomas, Elizabeth and George's surname is Tullett.

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Feb 2011 16:28

Clair - Mother's Maiden Name (you'll soon catch on!)

I'm wondering if Tulip could have been an error for Tullett.

We'll keep digging .....

Clair

Clair Report 21 Feb 2011 16:22

sorry, MMN? something to do with maiden names or am I on totally the wrong track??
prickly, pls dont make it any harder lol

Clair

Clair Report 21 Feb 2011 16:19

hi Marie.....is this the right ellen still or not? was she ellen tulip tullett dence golding? or is tulip a variation on tullett? is it possible to get her maiden name? (Or have I missed it in all thenformation?)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Feb 2011 16:19

I am wondering if she actually married Robert Tullett?

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Feb 2011 16:17

I checked out births after 1911 for any children with MMN Tullett or Dence but unfortunately there arn't any!

Researching:
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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Feb 2011 16:09

I'm starting to think she was a bit of a girl!

It would have been nice to have found the appropriate records to tie the loose ends up.

Clair

Clair Report 21 Feb 2011 16:05

lol maybe she did away with them to marry thomas golding!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Feb 2011 16:04

I think Robert Tullett and Harry Dence are under the floor boards because i cant seem to find a death entry for either of them!!!

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Feb 2011 15:58

I'm also wondering if this is the Harry and Ellen in 1901?

Marriages Jun 1897
>>Dence Harry Bromley 2a 898
Fife Thomas Peter Bromley 2a 898
>>Tulip Ellen Bromley 2a 898
Walker Florence Alice Bromley 2a 898

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Feb 2011 15:53

The 1911 that Holly posted says Ellen and Thomas had been married 10 years.

Can anyone find a suitable marriage?

Clair

Clair Report 21 Feb 2011 15:53

prickly, i can feel my brain frazzling!!
so is Ellen tullett 24 widow now Hellen De(a)nce 27? or is she now Ellen Golding 43?
I'm getting rather lost, but what is interesting is there is a Thomas Golding named as witness on Elizabeth's marriage cert. Has her mother married him now? Or have I gone wrong?

Clair

Clair Report 21 Feb 2011 15:45

lol maureen. Elizabeth's marriage cert has father Robert Tullett labourer. but on you census her mother was a widow by the time she was 3. but as you say, if you're asked your father's occupation, not if he's alive or dead, I suppose you just answer it! is it safe to assume it's still all the same family? it seems to make sense.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Feb 2011 15:44

Hmmmm....i am confused now!!!!

This is following on from the 1891 Maureen gave you.........


1911 census - household transcription
Person: DENCE, William
Address: ''maypole'' Cottages

GOLDING, Thomas Head Married M 34 1877 Farm Labourer Kent East Malling VIEW
GOLDING, Ellen Wife Married F 43 1868 Kent Orpington VIEW
DENCE, George Stepson Single M 17 1894 Farm Labourer Kent Orpington VIEW
DENCE, Edith Stepdaughter F 14 1897 Kent Belvedere VIEW
DENCE, William Stepson M 12 1899 Shool Kent Belvedere VIEW
DENCE, Robert Stepson M 10 1901 Shool Kent Belvedere VIEW
GOLDING, Ivy Daughter F 8 1903 Shool Kent Belvedere VIEW
GOLDING, Charles Son M 7 1904 Shool Kent Halstead VIEW
GOLDING, Bertram Son M 4 1907 Shool Kent Halstead VIEW
GOLDING, Harry Son M 2 1909 Kent Chelsfield VIEW
GOLDING, Alice Daughter F 1 1910 Kent Chelsfield VIEW
ALLEN, Bert Father In Law Married M 65 1846 Farm Labourer Kent Seal VIEW
ALLEN, Mary Mother In Law Married F 70 1841 London VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3688 Reference:
RG14PN3688 RG78PN139 RD42 SD3 ED1 SN72

Registration District:
Bromley Sub District:
Orpington Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Chelsfield

Address:
''maypole'' Cottages County:
Kent

(Married 10 years)

Researching:
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MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 21 Feb 2011 15:32

Yikes! Now I'm confused!
Did you mean would Elizabeth's father (Robert) not be listed as deceased on her marriage cert??? (not her birth cert?!)

Marriage certs and deceased fathers are always a problem! Unless she was asked-is your father alive? Why mention it? She knew his name and that was that.

Maureen

Clair

Clair Report 21 Feb 2011 15:15

hi prickly..possible she remarried.having enough trouble taking in the rest of it! You all work so quickly...incredibly grateful to all of you.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Feb 2011 15:13

Does it tell you if Robert is deceased on the marriage cert?

Oops,we cross posted!

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