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This looks very promising. Can you advise how I can obtain documents regarding the christening of Samuel 17/2/1833 and William 1839.

Many thanks for your help.

Regards
Ian

Not sure if this is of help or confusing the issue.

From a tree on Ancestry


Samuel Baugh
Birth about 1812 in Sutton, Cheshire, England
Death MAY 1866 in Eastham Parish, Cheshire, England

If he is the father of Samuel 1833 it may be interesting to note that Samuel (1812)'s parents married in St Oswalds.


Joseph Baugh
Birth 1775 in Little Sutton, Eastham Parish, Cheshire, England
Death 28 JAN 1855 in Little Sutton, Eastham Parish, Cheshire, England

Marriage 13 October 1800 to Elizabeth Smith
St. Oswald, Chester, Cheshire, England
Wife's name Elizabeth -from census records Possible record given date and place Not definite "England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900," LDS

No Image on Ancestry Christina

Name: Samuel Baugh
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 17 Feb 1833
Christening Place: Tarporley, Cheshire, England
Father's Name: Samuel Baugh
Mother's Name: Amelia

Samuel Baugh's baptism is also in the England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 on Ancestry, but I don't have access. Perhaps it would give his father's occupation for cross reference?

Posting this as a possibility because of how it sounds and also because there is a baptism for a William Ball in Tarporley in 1829 with the same parents.



"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Samuel Baugh
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 17 Feb 1833
Christening Place: Tarporley, Cheshire, England

Father's Name: Samuel Baugh

Mother's Name: Amelia Baugh

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05316-9
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 2106813
Reference ID: item 7 p 149

https://familysearch.org

It is some while since I reviewed this line, but would like to try again if anyone can help.

I am trying to find birth/christening details for Samuel Ball born in Delamere, Cheshire in 1832/1833. I believe his parents were Samuel and Amelia. In the 1841 census he is shown in the civil parish of Christleton living with his parents and brothers William and John, although the surname is showing as Bull. In 1846 a sister was born Martha. I can find birth records for John and Martha but not Samuel. By 1851 his parents had died and I can find no trace of Samuel in the 1851 census. He married Elizabeth Hankinson in 1855.

Can anyone find any birth/christening details or point me in the right direction.

Kind Regards

Ian

as it says:
Marriages 1581–1969 and Burials 1581–1854 have been deposited at the Cheshire Record Office.

Yes this is the correct Amelia. However I can find no other record of her ie. birthdate, parents etc.

Could you help regarding these?

Thanks

Ian

Could you just post the information about Amelia's marriage, so we can see what it said?
There are several St Oswald's on google searches - have you looked?
Thanks

Added:
Samuel Ball
Event: Marriage
Event Date: 17 Jun 1822
Event Place: St Oswald, Chester, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Spouse: Amelia Corrant
Spouse's Marital Status:
Film Number: 2068355
Digital Folder Number: 4018801
Image Number: 769

http://www.saintoswaldandsaintthomaschester.org.uk/

from information on free bmd:
Chester, St. Oswald (C of E), Queen Street. An ancient parish church, originally serving the townships of Bache, Blacon cum Crabwall (part), Churton Heath, Croughton, Great Boughton, Huntington, Iddinshall, Lea Newbold, Newton by Chester, Saighton, Upton by Chester (part), Wervin, and part of the city of Chester. Closed in 1881 and replaced as the parish church by St.Thomas of Canterbury, Parkgate Street. Registers of Baptisms 1581–1945, Marriages 1581–1969 and Burials 1581–1854 have been deposited at the Cheshire Record Office.

Could anyone help me find out more about Amelia Corrant who married Samuel Ball in 1822.

I would like to find out who her parents were.

Also does anyone know where the St Oswald church is where they married

it is also on the pilot site where the reputed source is Cheshire parish registers

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/

That record is submitted though so be careful.

on familysearch there is a Samuel Ball who married an Amelia Corrant in 1822 in Chester

There are these children of Samuel & Amelia on BVRI but no Samuel:

BALL, John Christening
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 0183
Christening Date: 3 Feb 1839 Recorded in: Tarvin, Cheshire, England
Father: Samuel BALL
Mother: Amelia BALL
Source: FHL Film 1850124 Dates: 1816 - 1846

BALL, Martha Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 26 May 1844 Recorded in: Tarvin, Cheshire, England
Father: Samuel BALL
Mother: Amelia BALL
Source: FHL Film 1850124 Dates: 1816 - 1846

Can anyone help me in finding the birth date and place of Samuel Ball born 1832/33 son of Samuel and Amelia as shown in the above 1841 census?

Also the marriage date and place of Samuel and Amelia.

Kind Regards

Ian

1851 England Census
John Ball
Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Nephew Gender: M (Male) Where born: Tarvin Oscroft, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Tarvin County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address: Oscroft Registration district: Great Boughton Sub-registration district: Tattenhall ED, institution, or vessel: 5b Household schedule number: 125

Jame Ball 62 Brick and Tile maker employing 4 or 5 men occasionally Utkington, Cheshire, NO ??
Mary Ball 41 wife Whitchester NO Could be Shropshire Whitchurch
William Ball 11 Servant Labourer Whitchester NO Could be Shropshire Whitchurch
Harriet Ball 1 Servant Tarvin Oscroft, Cheshire
John Ball 12 Labourer

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2171; Folio: 373; Page: 28; GSU roll: 87159-87161.

Can anyone help? I have a John Edwin Ball born 1839/40 in Tarvin. I have downloaded the entry from the 1851 census which on the individual record shows him living in oscroft cheshire. However the household census I downloaded just shows numbers of individual records and no names. I am trying to establish who he was living with.

You can go straight here to order too:

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

(I keep the link handy to hand out.)

One way or another you might be able to confirm that it's the right Amelia -- the informant could be a son or a child, the address, something that indicates her age.

Marriage certificates didn't always say when the father was deceased. We might imagine somebody being asked "father's occupation?" and just giving it. Why didn't you say he was deceased? Nobody asked me. ;)

The death certificate will not say automatically who the husband was. It will have an informant, who might be the husband.
You have to apply for the certificate, follow the instructions through the free bmd site.

Deaths Mar 1847
Ball Amelia Gt Boughton 19 27

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Janey
thaks for finding the death of amelia in 1847. As I am relatively inexperienced in this geneology business can you advise as to how I go about seeing more of this record. Can I obtain a death certificate for this record and will it tell me who the husband was?