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Sorry Janey, didn't realise. I have been looking at your Gaunt/Brown theory and I noticed that in 1861, Elizabeth lived next door to a Wilks family...related???

I just thought I would post everything I have found.

Looks like I'm def going to send off for that Gaunt/Brown marriage cert now.

Cheers!

1901 census record for household of Elizabeth Brown
Address 234 Low Wortley Road
Civil Parish Wortley
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish Wortley De Leeds St Johns
Parliamentary Borough or Division West Leeds
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Leeds
Administrative County Leeds
Householder 1
Name Benjamin Brown
Relation to Head of Family Grand Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 13
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Brickyard Labourer
Employment Status
Where Born Yorks Leeds Wortley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Elizabeth Brown
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Widow
Age Last Birthday 74
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Yorks Leeds Wortley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Sarah Brown
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 45
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Worsted Cloth Meader
Employment Status
Where Born Yorks Leeds Wortley
Language
Infirmity

1901 Transcription Record
Name Elizabeth Brown
Relation to Head of Family Head
Age Last Birthday 74
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Condition as to Marriage Widow
Where Born Yorks Leeds Wortley
Address 234 Low Wortley Road
Civil Parish Wortley
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish Wortley De Leeds St Johns
Parliamentary Borough or Division West Leeds
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Leeds
Administrative County Leeds
Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District Armley & Wortley
Language
Infirmity

Transcription Record 1891
Name Elizabeth Brown
Age 64
Estimated Year of Birth 1827
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Address 15, Mount Grove
District Bramley, Wortley
Parish Wortley
Administrative County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Birth Place Wortley
Birth County Yorkshire

Transcription Record 1881
Name Elizabeth Brown
Age 54
Estimated Year of Birth 1827
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Address
District Bramley, Wortley
Parish Wortley
Administrative County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Birth Place Wortley
Birth County Yorkshire

Transcription Record 1871
Name Elizabeth Brown
Age 44
Estimated Year of Birth 1827
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Address Wortley, Low
District Bramley, Wortley
Parish Wortley
Administrative County Yorkshire
Birth Place Yorkshire
Birth County Yorkshire

Transcription Record 1861
Name Elizabeth Brown
Age 34
Estimated Year of Birth 1827
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Address Low Wortley
District Hunslet, Wortley
Parish Wortley
Administrative County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Birth Place Wortley Leeds
Birth County Yorkshire

That's the one I posted on p. 1. ;)

Transcription Record 1851
Name Elizabeth Wilks
Age 24
Estimated Year of Birth 1827
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Occupation Hand Loom Weaver
Address Low Lane
District Dewsbury, Gomersal
Parish
Administrative County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Birth Place Wortley
Birth County Yorkshire

Janey,

Roberts and Hannahs marriage certificate ordered!!!

Not going to order the Gaunt/Brown one yet, going to see what this one reveals first. Excited, roll on 19th May!

Thanks again for your support.

Debi :D

Perhaps a tad young, but not necessarily.

My bet is still on Elizabeth Wilks 1827 and one of the Gomersal/Birstal/Drighlington Gaunt boys.

Get Robert's marriage certificate!

And the Gaunt-Brown marriage certificate.

!861 census...could this be the father of Robert?

Name Henry Gaunt
Age 27
Estimated Year of Birth 1834
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Cloth Fuller Woollen
Address Ridge Lane
District Hunslet, Wortley
Parish Leeds
Administrative County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Birth Place Leeds
Birth County Yorkshire

I LOVE the theories!!!

Keep them coming!!!

I've Pm a Victor? on here to do a burial look up for me, for Robert, as I wouldn't have a clue how to do that or where to start.

Every bit of info I have on him will make me happy as he's becoming a bit of an obsession...

Very best wishes
Debi





:D :D

And it's great when people get that buzz when you find something for them ... or lob one of yr wild theories at them ... ;)

Thanks again you wonderful helpful people!

I dabbled in my tree last year, but due to family commitments I couldn't spend the time I needed to on it and only seriously started a month ago. Its a fantastic hobby and sooo interesting.

Its great knowing there are people out there so willing to help and understand the 'buzz' you get when you find out even the smallest detail!

Debi <3

Mel, on p. 1 I posted three local Gaunt households -- lots of boys the right age, but no Robert or Henry among them, dang.

I think it would be worth having Robert's marriage certificate for sure. Recent (in generational terms!) certificates are always a good idea because they can save you from riding madly off in wrong directions right at the start.

Since he was using the surname Gaunt when he married there's every possibility he did know who his father was, assuming his father was Gaunt, and named him on the certificate. Or if Gaunt wasn't his father, there might be some other info that would explain the name. Witnesses are always good to know too, since they may be related.


You know, the more I tell people that surnames as middle names are often a clue to real fathers, the more I'm convinced that my gr-grf and his sister (my avatar), whose middle name was inexplicably Monck (the surname we never knew wasn't that side of my family's real name!), really *were* the offspring of the Viscount's black sheep younger brother who died at Alma just weeks before the sister was born ...

My tree I have a George Whybrow Chignell born out of wedlock and there was a George Whybrow in the village who married someone else!! So perhaps Roberts father was Henry Gaunt????

Debi it may give you details of the fathers but I expect it will just say for Robert that his father is deceased.

Mel

Also, Hannah's parents were Samuel Barraclough and Martha Barraclough nee Ramsbottom Wood...another one with a surname as a middle name... :S