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John Morris Morralley

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Nadine

Nadine Report 17 Jul 2011 10:00

Brilliant.

I couldn't find Uriah Morrallee's death certificate.

I've got him down as being born in 1826 but Maddie's death certificate would place his date of birth in 1817??

Maddie

Maddie Report 15 Jul 2011 16:37

there is this looks like the s has been transcribed as a

MD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Death
Name: MORRALLEE, Urina
Registration District: Help Llanfyllin
County: Montgomeryshire
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 73
Volume No: 11B
Page No: 146

Maddie

Maddie Report 15 Jul 2011 16:29

is this a possibilty
BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Death
Name: MORRALLEE, Margaret
Registration District: Help Llanfyllin
County: Montgomeryshire
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 60
Volume No: 11B
Page No: 153
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Nadine

Nadine Report 15 Jul 2011 14:02

Oooohhh....

once again thank you jax!!

Nadine

Nadine Report 15 Jul 2011 13:58

oooohhh... once again thank you jax!

jax

jax Report 15 Jul 2011 13:14

Male normally means a baby that has not been named

jax

Nadine

Nadine Report 15 Jul 2011 12:55

Theres a death certificate ive found its just listed as MALE MORRALLEE.

Name Male Morrallee
Year of Registration 1888
Quarter of Registration Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District Llanfyllin
Registration County Montgomeryshire
Volume Number 11B
Volume Page 180


Im wondering if that could be Urias Morrallee?? As i cant find any death certificate and he disapeared from the censuses??

Nadine

Nadine Report 15 Jul 2011 12:48

Found marriage certificates -

Name Uriahs Morrallee
Year of Marriage 1848
Quarter of Marriage Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District Llanfyllin
Registration County Montgomeryshire
Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912
Volume Number 27
Volume Page 131


Uriahs Morrallee married one of the people below:

Richard DAVIES View
John PRICE View
Elizabeth EVANS View
Margaret JONES View
Jane MORRIS




Urias Morrallee & Margaret Jone


:)

Nadine

Nadine Report 15 Jul 2011 12:34

how come i cant find death or marriage certifacte for urias and margret morrallee? Ive looked at all the censuses but ive now come to a dead end?

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 11:58

The 2 children that Emma Jay lost could be difficult to find without ordering all the certificates!! Here are a few options -

Deaths Dec 1894 (>99%)
Jay William Robert 2 Bristol 6a 30

Deaths Jun 1899 (>99%)
Jay Florence 1 Bristol 6a 74

Deaths Dec 1900 (>99%)
Jay Gladys Agatha 0 Bristol 6a 121
Jay Sylvia Zilby H 1 Bristol 6a 29

Deaths Mar 1902 (>99%)
Jay Herbert James W 4 Bristol 6a 110

Deaths Dec 1902 (>99%)
Jay Henry Wesley 4 Bristol 6a 118

Deaths Dec 1904 (>99%)
JAY Thomas Clement 0 Bristol 6a 124

Deaths Sep 1905 (>99%)
Jay Doris May 0 Bristol 6a 84

Deaths Mar 1908 (>99%)
JAY Daisy 1 Bristol 6a 134

Deaths Sep 1908 (>99%)
Jay Clifford 0 Bristol 6a 41

These can all be looked up on FreeBMD -

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Only certificates would tell you who the parents are?

Nadine

Nadine Report 15 Jul 2011 11:51

Fantastic!!!!! All our family spell our last name Morralley apart from my father and his wife and children who spell is Morrallee.

Its believed that the original spelling is Morralley but a groom on his wedding day was very nervous and had a drink to 'steady his nerves' but ended up drinking too much and signing his name wrong on the registar.

if the story is true it may look like Uriah was the nervous groom!!

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 11:46

I think that this is the marriage of John Morris Morralley's (1879) parents -

Marriages Sep 1878 (>99%)
Morrallee Uriah Llanfyllin 11b 265
Morris Jane Llanfyllin 11b 265

Nadine

Nadine Report 15 Jul 2011 11:41

brilliant!! I am mainly looking for the Morralley tree. No one in our family have ever been able to get far..

just out of interest in the Jay family it says Emma Jay lost 2 children is there anyway to find that out?? it says they were born? i was wondering if it was one of the 7 children i have in my tree?

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 11:39

1851 census -

JONES, Anne Head Unmarried F 56 1795 Lodging House Keeper Llanidloes Montgomeryshire VIEW
GRIFFITHS, Hannah Servant Unmarried F 50 1801 House Servant Llanidloes Montgomeryshire VIEW
JOB, Evan Lodger Widower M 60 1791 Weaver (Flannel)
Llanidloes Montgomeryshire VIEW
PRICE, Thomas Lodger Unmarried M 68 1783 Pauper (Formerly Ag Lab) Llanidloes Montgomeryshire VIEW
DANIEL, Thomas Lodger Married M 47 1804 Nailor
St Merthir Tidfil Glamorganshire VIEW
DANIEL, Sarah Lodger Married F 48 1803 Nailors Wife
Manchester Lancashire VIEW
MORRALLEE, Urias Lodger Married M 26 1825 Pedlar
Mold Flintshire VIEW
MORRALLEE, Margaret Lodger Married F 26 1825 Pedlar Wife
Llanrwst Denbighshire VIEW
MORRALLEE, Phoebe Lodger F 2 1849 Pedlar Child
Llanidloes Montgomeryshire VIEW
MORRALLEE, Urias Lodger M 0 (5 MOS) 1851 Pedlar Child Penybont Montgomeryshire VIEW
YANSTAN, John Lodger Married M 45 1806 Said To Be A Tailor
Ireland Cork VIEW
YANSTAN, Mary Lodger Married F 47 1804 Tailors Wife
Carmarthen Carmarthenshire VIEW
YANSTAN, James Lodger M 10 1841 Tailors Child
Carmarthen Carmarthenshire VIEW
YANSTAN, Thomas Lodger M 0 (7 MOS) 1851 Tailors Child Carmarthen Carmarthenshire VIEW
SMITH, Joseph Lodger Married M 51 1800 Rag Dealer
Aldgate London VIEW
SMITH, Margaret Lodger Married F 48 1803 Rag Dealer Wife
Aldgate London VIEW
POTTER, John Lodger Married M 35 1816 Said To Be A Hatter
Oldham Lancashire VIEW
POTTER, Hanah Lodger Married F 35 1816 Said To Be A Hatter
Oldham Lancashire VIEW

RG number: HO107 Piece: 2496 Folio: 233 Page: 10
Registration District: Newton Sub District: Llanidloes Lower Enumeration District: 1C Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Llanidloes Municipal Borough: Llanidloes
Address: Church Street, Llanidloes County: Montgomeryshire

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 11:36

1861 census -

I think that Urias born in 1851 is actually Hugh Uriah Moralley because the tree on Ancestry has his born c1851.

MORRALLEE, Urias Head Married M 35 1826 Peddler
Mold Kent VIEW
MORRALLEE, Margaret Wife Married F 36 1825
Denbigh Llanrwst VIEW
MORRALLEE, Pheby Daughter Unmarried F 12 1849 Scholar
Montgomery Pennant VIEW
MORRALLEE, Urias Son Unmarried M 10 1851 Scholar
Montgomery Llanrhaiadr VIEW
MORRALLEE, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 6 1855 Scholar
Montgomery Llanrhaiadr VIEW

RG number: RG09 Piece: 4265 Folio: 1 Page: 4
Registration District: Llanfyllin Sub District: 3 Llanrhaiadr Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Cefn Coch Municipal Borough:
Address: Plough Row, Cefn Coch County: Montgomeryshire

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 11:30

There is a tree on Ancestry that has Hugh Uriah Moralley in it and if the tree owner is correct then Uriah (born c1828) in 1841 census is Hugh's father -

MORALLE, James M 35 1806 VIEW
MORALLE, Pheby F 35 1806 Flintshire VIEW
MORALLE, Uriah M 13 1828 Flintshire VIEW
MORALLE, Elizabeth F 10 1831 Flintshire VIEW
MORALLE, Mathew M 8 1833 Flintshire VIEW
MORALLE, Ann F 6 1835 Flintshire VIEW
MORALLE, William M 4 1837 Flintshire VIEW
MORALLE, Michael M 2 1839 Flintshire VIEW
MORALLE, Mary F 1 1840 Flintshire VIEW

RG number: HO107 Piece: 1410 Book/Folio: 12/36 Page: 8
Registration District: Holywell Sub District: Mold Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Mold Municipal Borough:
Mold Address: Wrexham Street, Mold County: Flintshire

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 11:12

Still looking for John Morris Moralley and his father Hugh Uriah Moralley???

Haven't found them in the census yet?

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 11:05

#
Waldemar Jay
England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900
residence: 11 Sep 1896 —Gloucestershire, Bristol, St George Brandon Hill
parents: George Jay, Mary Ann Jay
record title: England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900
name: Waldemar Jay
event: CHRISTENING
event date: 11 Sep 1896
event place: Bristol, St George Brandon Hill, Gloucestershire, England
father: George Jay
mother: Mary Ann Jay
digital folder number: 4194393

#
Mary Louisa Jay
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Bristol, Gloucester, England
parents: George Jay, Mary Ann
record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Mary Louisa Jay
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 19 Jul 1895
baptism/christening place: St. George-Brandon Hill, Bristol, Gloucester, England
father's name: George Jay
mother's name: Mary Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C01630-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596352

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 10:59

There is also this marriage which is actually for Mary Ann and matches more accurately??

Marriages Sep 1892 (>99%)
Caple Mary Ann M Bristol 6a 12
Jay George Bristol 6a 12

The certificate would tell you who the father's are?

Better still, familysearch has done it again -

George Jay

England Marriages, 1538–1973


marriage: 27 Aug 1892 —St. George-Brandon Hill, Bristol, Gloucester, England
parents: Richard Jay
spouse: Mary Ann May Caple

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: George Jay
bride's name: Mary Ann May Caple
marriage date: 27 Aug 1892
marriage place: St. George-Brandon Hill, Bristol, Gloucester, England
groom's father's name: Richard Jay
bride's father's name: James May
indexing project (batch) number: M17094-2
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596357

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 10:54

The 1901 census could be transcribed incorrectly. The information could have been given by Mary Ann??