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BASELEY, Robert Head Married M 41 1840 Railway Shunter
Birmingham Warwickshire
BASELEY, Emmeline Wife Married F 30 1851
Stafford
BASELEY, Thomas Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar Birmingham Warwickshire
BASELEY, Harriet Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar Stafford
BASELEY, Mary Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar Cannock
Staffordshire
>>>BASELEY, Robert Daughter Son Single M 0 1881 Cannock Staffordshire

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
2784 Folio:
35 Page:
21

Registration District:
Cannock Sub District:
Cannock Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Cannock Municipal Borough:
Address:
Huntington Ter Road, Cannock County:
Staffordshire

Possible for Ruth?

POTTS, John Head Married M 28 1863 Coal Miner Sedgeley Staffordshire
POTTS, Martha Wife Married F 29 1862 Tipton Staffordshire
POTTS, Hannah Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar Tipton Staffordshire
POTTS, Thomas Son M 5 1886 Scholar Cannock Staffordshire Chase
>>>POTTS, Ruth Daughter F 3 1888 Cannock Staffordshire Chase
POTTS, Clara Daughter F 1 1890 Wath upon Dearne Staffordshire

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3854 Folio:
59 Page:
61

Registration District:
Rotherham Sub District:
Wath Enumeration District:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Wath on Dearne All Saints

Civil Parish:
Wath on Dearne Municipal Borough:
Address:
Court 2 No 5, Doncaster Road, Wath On Dearne County:
Yorkshire (West Riding)

Hi Everyone I have very little information and she doesn't have a birth cert.
I was told just now. my son in law's name is wilkes and his father is ken.
his brother is Robert married to Reta no dates
His mothers sister is Shirley marsh artist and husband clifford.
The story is that there are irish roots and that he was under protection and had to leave ireland this is Robert Baseley ?
sorry I do not have any other facts and information, you are all so kind and supportive to us seekers I really value you all
THANK YOU EVERYONE
<3 :-D

No Wilkes-Baseley marriage, but a Kenneth F Wilkes married a Judith M Jones in 1959 in Cannock, does this sound right to you?

NB this bride ties in with the birth of a Jones daughter MMN Baseley in 1941, same middle initial as the bride.

Can you please confirm whether the Isaac that Alice Mary married was a
Baseley or a Jones. it looks to me like Mary Alice was the Baseley, and Isaac the Jones. Thanks. :-)

I will try to talk more to my in laws and son in law and get back to you all I do not want to be beaten and also to give my grand children a full tree as much as possible .. so I will get back as asp to you all and THANK YOU ALL YOU STARS AND YOU HAVE BIG HEARTS AND KINDNESS TO US SEEKERS, LOVE YOU ALL X <3
SUSAN X

Susan,

If you stand back and have a think about it, you could give us an awful lot more information....

You don't have to give personal details of 'living people' but you keep saying that you have no dates??

You could at least say if your son-in-law was born c 1980 or c 1940 ??

Possible area??

His father Ken Wilkes would have been born e.g. c 1970 or c 1890 ??? etc !

Do you know Ken's wife's name? - You seem to know that her sister was a 'Shirley Marsh' - so does this mean that his mother's name was Marsh, or had Shirley married etc......

Please sit down and write out what you have and let us know the details - you have more info than you think.

Dea x

it is alice mary baseley and isaac jones my son in laws grand parents on his mothers side.
I will try to find out more and get back tomorrow
THANK YOU ALL <3

Susan

'The story is that there are irish roots and that he was under protection and had to leave ireland this is Robert Baseley'



This may have been years ago but you need to think, this is an open board and people anywhere in the world can see this info just by searching a name

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Marriage of Robert Baseley senior:

Marriages Mar 1869
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>>>Baseley Robert Stafford 6b 7
Hampton Clara Stafford 6b 7
>>>Plant Emmeline Stafford 6b 7
Thompson Henry Alfred Stafford 6b 7

Robert Baseley Senior (c1840) in 1851:

Name: Robert Baseley
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Mary A Baseley
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Leamington Priors
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Leamington
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Warwick
Sub-registration district: Budbrooke
ED, institution, or vessel: 1p
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85
Piece: 2072
Folio: 582
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Mary A Baseley 39 c1812 Tynemouth, Northamptonshire, England.Head. married, Launderess.
Harriet Baseley 16
Ellen Baseley 14
Robert Baseley 10 c1841 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Jane Baseley 7

With both parents in census 1841, name mistranscribed, but children Harriet, Ellen and Robert tally with census 1851):

Name: Robert Braslay
Age: 6 MO
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Hundred: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Paul
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1144
Book: 7
Folio: 49
Page Number: 14

Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Beasley 35 c1806 Warwickshire, England. Groom
Mary Beaslay 30
Harriet Beaslay 7
Ellen Braslay 5
Robert Braslay 6 MO

No sign yet of any Irish roots for the Baseley family, and we're back to c1806.

Going out on a limb for Mr Jones:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Isaac Jones
Name: Isaac Jones
Birth Date: 5 Mar 1904
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1972
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Cannock
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 200

Births Jun 1904 (>99%)
JONES Isaac Lichfield 6b 530


1911 census transcription details for: 70 Brindley Heath Hford
RG14PN16899 RG78PN1045 RD367 SD2 ED9 SN182


Reg. District: Lichfield Sub District: Rugeley
Parish: Brereton Enum. District: 9
Address: 70 Brindley Heath Hford
County: Staffordshire


JONES, David Head Married
17 years M 44 1867 Coal Miner Engineroad Man Bilston Staff
JONES, Jane Wife Married F 40 1871 Dudley Glose
JONES, John Son Single M 20 1891 Coal Miner Hewer Brige Town Staff
JONES, David Son M 13 1898 School Brindley Heath Staff
JONES, Florry Daughter F 11 1900 School Brindley Heath Staff
JONES, William Son M 9 1902 Brindley Heath Staff
JONES, Isiac Son M 7 1904 Brindley Heath Staff
JONES, Lily Daughter F 5 1906 Brindley Heath Staff
JONES, Jane Daughter F 3 1908 Brindley Heath Staff
JONES, George Son M 2 1909 Brindley Heath Staff
TIPPER, John Boarder Single M 23 1888 Coal Miner Driver Stafford Staff
WILLIAMS, George Boarder Single M 21 1890 Coal Miner Driver Derby Derbyshire




1901 census transcription details for: 62, Brindley Heath, Brereton, Brindley Heath

RG number: RG13 Piece: 2658 Folio: 116 Page: 39


Reg. District: Lichfield Sub District: Rugeley
Parish: Brereton Enum. District: 24
Ecclesiastical District: Hednesford City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 62, Brindley Heath, Brereton, Brindley Heath
County: Staffordshire


JONES, David Head Married M 33 1868 Miner Coal Hewer
Bradley
Staffordshire
JONES, Jane Wife Married F 31 1870
Dudley
Staffordshire
JONES, John H Son M 9 1892
Bridgetown
Staffordshire
JONES, Ann E Daughter F 7 1894
Dudley
Staffordshire
JONES, David Son M 3 1898
Hednesford
Staffordshire
JONES, Florence Daughter F 1 1900
Hednesford
Staffordshire
ALLEN, Charles Boarder Single M 29 1872 Miner's Labourer Underground
Dudley
Worcestershire

I'm not seeing a likely marriage for David and Jane other than the one Ginny found in Cannock,but this looks like it could be the first son:
Births Mar 1892 (>99%)
BENBOW John Henry Cannock 6b 497

Maybe it took her that long to talk him into it!

Maureen

Looks promising to me, Maureen.

We're in such an agreeable mood today aren't we!!

Possibly Jane:
1881 Ancestry
Name: Jane Bembow
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William Bembow
Mother's name: Jane Bembow
Gender: Female
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Dudley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 7a Lawley Str
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2875
Folio: 130
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
William Bembow 69
Jane Bembow 45
Betsy Bembow 16
Jane Bembow 9
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2875; Folio: 130; Page: 33; GSU

1891 England Census about Jane Benbow
Name: Jane Benbow
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Jane Benbow
Gender: Female
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Dudley
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2293
Folio: 120
Page Number: 54
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Benbow 54
John Benbow 37
Betsy Benbow 27
Jane Benbow 20

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2293; Folio 120; Page 54; GSU

Maureen

Death:

Name: Alice Mary Jones
Birth Date: 20 Aug 1909
Date of Registration: Jul 1986
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Cannock Chase
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 30
Page: 519


Birth: Baseley Alice Mary Cannock 6b 484 Dec 1909.

Looks like Robert Baseley's pension records are on Ancestry.

Maureen

Good find!

5ft 7 1/2 in Blue eyes, brown hair, fresh complexion, 127 lb, a miner.

Finding it hard to read the writing. Wonder if he served in Ireland at all, and whether that might be the root of the family story.

It confirms that his father was also Robert, and it also confirms the marriage to Ruth Potts, 25/10/1908 St Luke's Church, Cannock

Also children

Alice Mary 20.8.09

Thomas 15.10.10

Ruth 25.10.14

Robert 9.8.13

Ellen 11.1.18

Lookjs like you two are going to be 'at it' all night on this one - Go for it !! - you are 'on a roll' ;-)

I will catch up with you with great interest in the morning.

Dea Xxx

Was just going to say I'm taking a break for the evening on this one. It's so darned hot here-my glasses keep fogging up and sliding down my nose. Can't see a thing!

Maureenxx